Hey there, Magnum newbie here. My name is Ash, I work in real estate in Malibu, CA. I also run a clothing company called Culture and Propaganda - the art and fashion collaboration. I spend most of my time surfing, fishing, painting, modding cars/trucks and playing with my dogs.

Planning on getting a 2006 Magnum AWD R/T soon.

I'm new to the street scene, I'm a off road truck guy.

What is the backspacing and bolt pattern on the Magnum AWD?

Can I throw on 22s without upgrading the brakes?

I really like the look of the TIS Model 08 wheel. I'd like to have them powdercoated black, or maybe just the face and leave the lip chrome. Will these fit the AWD RT? Anyone know what they weigh compared to the stock wheels?

I was quoted $375 a wheel for 20s with Toyo Proxes ST tires for $175 each. Are these wheels any good or do they just look cool?

Are there any wheels that look similar to the TIS Model08?

Sorry for all the questions, I'm about to start doing my homework but wanted to start getting some expert opinions asap.

Thanks,

Ash

 

Stock wheel is 5x115 with 55 offset. I have 45 offset with no issues, it puts the wheel 1 centimeter further out. Looks good. Don't let anyone tell you that 5x114.3 will fit, there are too many wheels out there with the correct specs to be messing with that.

That is the only answer I know, so I'll leave the rest to someone else.

 

I dont know the numbers but i did try and put a set of stock Rt rims on amy awd car and no it did not work. There has to be about a 1 inch difference in the back spacing.

 

Can I throw on 22s without upgrading the brakes? What is the concern, extra weight of the 22's overheating the brakes? Stock RT brakes are very powerful.

I really like the look of the TIS Model 08 wheel. I'd like to have them powdercoated black, or maybe just the face and leave the lip chrome. Will these fit the AWD RT? Anyone know what they weigh compared to the stock wheels? I am not familar with this wheel. Front wheel clearance is very tight. Reach over the top of the front tire and you will feel the upper suspension component very close to the inboard side of the tire. One can not move outboard very far without the tire protruding from the fender. Very little variation in rim offset can be tolerated. 255 tire width is a practical maximum with the stock offset. If you are looking at the TIS of 20x8.5 with 38 mm offset, I can't say definatively if it will work. That is only 7 mm further than what FlatEric uses, but he didn't mention at what rim and tire width, which are important factors.

I was quoted $375 a wheel for 20s with Toyo Proxes ST tires for $175 each. Are these wheels any good or do they just look cool? I have been following tire threads here and elsewhere for over a year. Magnum owners run these Toyos and for the most part are happy with them. They wear fairly well. They are not particularly good in the snow, with at least some owners changing to winter tires. Also, there is not a lot of warning when they are about to slide in the rain.

Scott

 

I am running Pirelli P7s in stock size, 225/60/18, on chrome MKT rims, so only commented on the offset of the stock wheels and what I use. I would not dare venture a guess if 22" rims with wide tires would fit in there, but Tire Rack does not list a 22" rim for the AWD.

1000RIMS.COM have offset +40 and +45 listed, with 265-30-22 as fitments. Offset 38 moves it out a hair more than that, for a total of 1.7 CMs further out than stock plus another 1.5 CMs for the extra tire width inside and out (tires are 3 CMs wider than stock theorectically if using 255s) and 255s are slightly smaller that the 265s they say will fit. I would only buy from someone who has tried the fit and gives a guarantee that they do fit. 1000RIMS.COM does that.

With 255s you could go 255/35/22 to keep close to stock diameter, with 265s you would have to go to 265/30/22. Whew!!!! Not much rubber there.

For me personally, I stayed with stock size as I like the ride. I just wanted some nice chrome rims and higher speed rated tires than the HRs that came with the car. I can imagine that 22' rims with rubber so low as to keep the stock overall diameter would pretty much ride like a go-cart. Not sure I like the 22" look either, 20" would be my personnal limit.

Now this is just my opinion and personal preference. No right or wrong when it comes to our cars. I have yet to see a Magnum or 300C or Charger that I did not like....

 

FlatEric,

Thanks for the info on your tires. What do you like about the P7's and how are they wearing? Are you MKT rims the same width as stock (7.5")?

Thanks again,
Scott

 

Hello,
Unless you drive to the mountains, why would anyone who lives in CA. spend the extra cash for a "AWD" R/T? Why not just get the R/T model & pocket the difference or put it towards some rims.
Living in PA., along the shores of Lake Erie. we see alot of bad seasonal weather. In the snow the "RWD" R/T is a blast to drive.
Just wondering....

 

There are usually two parts to discussions about whether to purchase AWD. The first is whether RWD is good enough in the snow for your conditions, driving skill, patience, etc. Folks come to different conclusions and that is their prerogative.

The second part of the discussion is confusion over what the pros and cons of AWD are. Back in 2004 while we were waiting for the AWD model to be released, internet speculation waxed poetic about how it would be terrible for performance. That speculation turned out to be uninformed.

A common misconception about AWDs is that they are mostly for getting one through some otherwise impassable road. Well they will do that, but AWD has much broader benefit. Distributing the power across all wheels better maintains traction when driving and turning at speed on slippery surfaces, be they snowy or rainy. This results in a feeling of being “on-rails�. AWD’s can apply that Hemi power to slippery roads with less sliding and cutting of power by ESP. It is wonderful to hammer the throttle, mid-turn on wet roads, and rocket out of corners. AWD extends high-performance driving to rain days, of which there are many in my locale.

I have been driving in Wisconsin winters since 1973 in both rear and front drive cars and have tolerated the marginal snow performance from these kinds of vehicles. I know what is possible with snow tires, extra weight, and good driving skills. My Dad used to ice race cars on frozen lakes; I know all the driving tips. Now, driving the AWD Magnum, I am finally freed from the annoyance of crawling along in snow, as if crippled. For the last two winters, when it is slippery I can drive at the nearly the normal pace of traffic when the road is dry, cepting some extra distance to dodge goofs.

So for me, the Magnum is a performance car, adding AWD enhances the performance on a lot of crummy days. Oh yeah, and I can still take my kids out and do donuts.

 

I guess for the same reason folks buy AWD Porches....whatever that reason is. "Because they can" comes to mind, but I bet it's not to get around in the snow better....hahahaha!!

 

Yes, stock width at 7.5".

I mainly bought the P7s because they are W speed rated, and I plan to remove the top end limit soon. They are wearing fine, do not even notice the wear yet, but they are a little louder. The car handles tighter I think, not so much flex on the sidewalls as the 4x4 Contis that came with the car (which went 25,000 miles by the way). Not that I need to go more than 128, but geeze, my 6 cyl AWD Passat does 128......and I want to be able to go 150 or so just once in my life (I turn 50 next month). So, I bought the tires and will get the chip just so I can say my car goes 150 MPH. I know how that sounds, but I am happily married and don't drink but a beer now and then....and I can't take it with me!!!