Rear End Gears
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RE: Rear End Gears
First post here!
Have a blue R/T on order. Had similar thought about gear changes. I doubt that the R/T and the V6 cars use the same differential housing....the torque from the Hemi would likely blow up a V6 rear regardless of the gear ratio. Going to 3.55's or similar would probably kill gas mileage, but maybe 3.23's. I would guess that you probably need the rear gears from a 1500 Ram or similar.
Tire switch is the easy way to go, but smaller tires = less ground clearance, not a good thing. Regardless of whether you switch tires or gears, the computer will be thrown off....not just speedo, but computer now controls tranny shift points, plus traction control, ABS, and a whole list of things we probably haven't thought of that affect drivability. Most times can get away with a small change though.
Have a blue R/T on order. Had similar thought about gear changes. I doubt that the R/T and the V6 cars use the same differential housing....the torque from the Hemi would likely blow up a V6 rear regardless of the gear ratio. Going to 3.55's or similar would probably kill gas mileage, but maybe 3.23's. I would guess that you probably need the rear gears from a 1500 Ram or similar.
Tire switch is the easy way to go, but smaller tires = less ground clearance, not a good thing. Regardless of whether you switch tires or gears, the computer will be thrown off....not just speedo, but computer now controls tranny shift points, plus traction control, ABS, and a whole list of things we probably haven't thought of that affect drivability. Most times can get away with a small change though.
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RE: Rear End Gears
Talked to my contact at the local dealership, who ran the part numbers and such. He said it does look like the housing is the same for all three, but cannot say for sure. Even if, the strengh of the sxt gears are in question. Local aftermarket shop says it would be no problem to put new gears in, I just don't know if it is a 8.25 or 9.25 rear end.
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RE: Rear End Gears
I checked with my dealership today re: the tire swap to 225/40 18's. They hooked the diagnostic tool up to my Magnum and verified that the computer allows you to dial in tire changes. The change in wheel size, when fed into the computer via the diagnostic tool, will recalibrate the speedo and alert all other systems to the change so that nothing else (particularly traction control and ABS) is adversely effected.
I'm going with an ultra-high performance all season Pirelli PZero Nero M&S as soon as my checkbook allows it.
Nick
I'm going with an ultra-high performance all season Pirelli PZero Nero M&S as soon as my checkbook allows it.
Nick
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RE: Rear End Gears
blackmagnumrt,
Great news and thanks for the research. Going to get my Mag and see how I like the tires. I have a feeling I will be right with you in getting new tires.
This might be a dumb question but what are you using to calculate the circumfrence of the tires and the diference in spedometer. I can do the math manually but if there is an online calculator can you post a link?
Do you know off hand the difference in diameter between the 225/60 and the 225/40?
Thanks
Great news and thanks for the research. Going to get my Mag and see how I like the tires. I have a feeling I will be right with you in getting new tires.
This might be a dumb question but what are you using to calculate the circumfrence of the tires and the diference in spedometer. I can do the math manually but if there is an online calculator can you post a link?
Do you know off hand the difference in diameter between the 225/60 and the 225/40?
Thanks
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RE: Rear End Gears
Sorry to come off as a math geek, I actually did all of my calculations using the online calculators at Web Car's Auto Math site.
Once you run the tire/wheel compensation calculator, you will be given (among other things) a number that represents the ratio of your old tires to your new ones. So, in order to find the effective gear ratio after the tire swap, you need to plug that number into the following formula:
As to your question about the tire diameter difference between the 225/60 and the 225/40 tires on stock wheels, it is 3.5" smaller (28.6" vs. 25.1").
Happy calculating!
Nick
Once you run the tire/wheel compensation calculator, you will be given (among other things) a number that represents the ratio of your old tires to your new ones. So, in order to find the effective gear ratio after the tire swap, you need to plug that number into the following formula:
original gear ratio (in this case 2.82 for the R/T) x ratio of old tires to new (in my example 1.14) = effective gear ratio (3.21)
As to your question about the tire diameter difference between the 225/60 and the 225/40 tires on stock wheels, it is 3.5" smaller (28.6" vs. 25.1").
Happy calculating!
Nick