Yeah but the car doesn't run 12s stock does it. When he can spend about 4 grand total and run 13 flat on 9psi boost I would like to see that on a dsm. I am not saying that dsms are bad hell I would love to have one but you can make a fast vehicle out of something else.

 

if thats the case then you need to convince the thousands and thousands of turbo owners from Neon SRT-4's to twin turbo Vipers that prefer the manual transmission. I've been racing turbo cars for over 4 years and unless you're going w/ a FULL, BUILT UP AUTO everyone will always prefer the MT over the AT.

 

umm....why don't you go back and read what I posted.

Look all I'm saying is for the money he wants to spend you could buy a 1st gen DSM w/ a factory Mitsubishi Heavy Industries turbo and AWD platform. But what the hell do I know I just club baby seals for a living...

 

Why don't you read what I posted I said that for the same amount of money that it would take to buy a stock dsm he could have his neon running 13 flat. A stock dsm could never run 13 flat.

 

I'm not arguing that point. All I'm saying is w/ that amount of money he wants to spend he can buy a complete car thats already equipped w/ a 12 second capable turbo and AWD. How many other cars can you think of that are sub $4000 that comes factory w/ a turbo and AWD? 1st gen DSM's are probably the best bang for the buck. There's no limit on how far you can go w/ a 1st gen.