you dont have a firestone or goodyear around. pepboys will work.

 

ok well hoepfully i can find a day to go up there the closest pep boys is about an hour away.

 

dang that might not be worth it.

 

The starter relay should not do anything when you turn the car off, the only time the relay is energized is when the ignition switch is in the start position.
Poor connection in the relay socket may be causing it to overheat damaging the relay or there may be a problem with the starter drawing too much current. I would pull the relay and look for evidence of overheating first.

 

there was no sign of over heating ... finally figured out it was a bad starter sollenoid. thanks anyways for the help guys!

 

Most places such as Pep Boys, Firestone, etc. are full of retards and they seem to hire only the mentally handicapped. One person I have known well for over 20 years has worked at several of those places and he changed plugs on his own car and rolled back in with it puffing loudly wondering what was wrong. He had one of the plugs dangling by the wire.[sm=icon_rofl.gif]Find an individual shop with an ASE certified mechanic and ask for a few references, you can easily get screwed anywhere, but this should help weed out the lying thieves and morons.

Glad to hear you got it figured out and fixed finally.

 

Good to hear you found the problem, So, I take it that the relays you replaced were not bad at all. When you think about it the relay probably wouldn’t click very loud, it was probably the solenoid you heard. I had a starter go out on my 1995 Neon last summer, sometimes it would start and sometimes only click. I’m not sure about the 2000 but the 1995 used one of two starters a Hitachi or a Bosch and no one here handled parts only total rebuilds for $200+Cnd exchange more for the Bosch. I ended up taking it to a local rebuild shop that has an excellent reputation, they replaced the solenoid, brushes, bushings, drive assembly and tank cleaned the case. I picked it up the next day (it looked brand new) all for around $100.

 

Starter relays can click fairly noticeably, I had the relay on my '87 Shelby Z malfunction, but it was causing the car to start on it's own at random and even though they are all 5-spds. they didn't have the kill switch on the clutch pedal that keeps newer cars from starting without the clutch pedal being pushed down.