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Old Jul 25, 2007 | 08:34 AM
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Wife's 2500 hemi can't shake the death wobble (sorry for the pun). Started off with steering stabilizer. No better. Both ball joints on both sides (lowers were a little loose). No better. Alignment with +4.25 caster, most they could get out of it. Still did it to her yesterday. Truck has 76k, new tires, and everything else in the front end is tight. I hate having to worry about her and my daughter riding in the thing. I'm ready to get rid of it. Should I cough up the money and install an aftermarket track bar even though the stocker is tight and the truck isn't lifted? I'm running out of patience.
 
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Old Jul 25, 2007 | 08:57 AM
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if there nothing wrong with your stock track bar, that's not going to help. A regular single stabilizer won't work either, you need a dual stabilizer or a DDS.
dual shocks play against each other where a single shock has no resistance against it. I forgot the terminaolgy ( static ) I think, where the force of one work agianst the force of the other.

Anyway, I know Dodge had problems with warpped wheels for a while. The never made a recall out of it which they should have. Not sure what year truck you have but, that's a possiblity. It was on the early model trucks.

This is a DDS stabilizer. There's a lot of play in the steering gear box which cause steering wander...this will get rid of that. http://www.solidsteel.ca/DSS.htm

A steering stabilizer isn't just a shock. It has to be valved to where is has resistance. You can look into a Fox shock stabilizer which is adjustable.
http://thurenfabrication.com/ramstab.html I would also call Don and talk to him about your problem.... he'll have you fixed up in no time.









 
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Old Jul 25, 2007 | 09:49 AM
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Do they make a DSS for the 3rd Gen? This is for a 2003 truck.
 
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Old Jul 25, 2007 | 09:59 AM
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yeah they do. I thought you had a 2nd gen which is why I posted that link.

here ya go.... give Rip a call, he'll also be able to take care of your problem.... http://www.sourceautomotive.biz/steeringsuspension.htm
 
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Old Jul 25, 2007 | 10:08 AM
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take it in for an alignment... have the tech change the caster so the wheel is more like a shopping cart wheel (I call it adding caster, they call it removing caster [&:]) this should fix your problem. tell them to forget the specs for caster and to increase it as much as possible while keeping the toe spec.

I had a bad steering stabilizer on for about 2 months and with the bigger tires on there, had zero DW issues (already had the alignment done)
 
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Old Jul 25, 2007 | 04:10 PM
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take it in for an alignment... have the tech change the caster so the wheel is more like a shopping cart wheel (I call it adding caster, they call it removing caster [&:]) this should fix your problem. tell them to forget the specs for caster and to increase it as much as possible while keeping the toe spec.

I had a bad steering stabilizer on for about 2 months and with the bigger tires on there, had zero DW issues (already had the alignment done)
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Alignment with +4.25 caster, most they could get out of it. Still did it to her yesterday.
Already tried that.
 
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Old Jul 25, 2007 | 04:17 PM
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I am new to this forum...but I test rode a few trucks lately...about a month ago I tested a 2007.5 Mega cab 4x4...it had something going on at a high speed (brand new)...I mentioned it to the stealer and he blamed the road...but it was the same road I drove my 1986 Toytota turbo charged 4x4 with mud tires on and I didnt feel it...so yesterday when I tested another mega cab 4x4 I took it down the highway and didnt notice
of any DW or anything.
I would say that over wash board pavement...the dodge did jump around more then the Chevy...but mostly
due to the type of front ends...
 
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Old Jul 25, 2007 | 07:59 PM
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take it in for an alignment... have the tech change the caster so the wheel is more like a shopping cart wheel (I call it adding caster, they call it removing caster [&:]) this should fix your problem. tell them to forget the specs for caster and to increase it as much as possible while keeping the toe spec.

I had a bad steering stabilizer on for about 2 months and with the bigger tires on there, had zero DW issues (already had the alignment done)
ORIGINAL: GFB
Alignment with +4.25 caster, most they could get out of it. Still did it to her yesterday.
Already tried that.
just looked @ my alignment sheet... spec says 4.0-5.3* I am at 5.3 on the left & 5.1 on the right... take it back & have them do it again. with stock sized tires (I'm assuming yours are stock... didnt notice otherwise)... you can get even more than the 5.3*. and while your at it, have them check the tire balance. Dont let them just re-balance them, make them check it and tell you if it's off or not, then if they are, re-balance them. off balance tires can contribute to the problem.

I have had 2 trucks & an suv (jeep GC) with the same front end and always ad the alignment done this way and never have had a problem... stock tires or oversized tires. I've talked with guys who have lifted their trucks & put 37's on with a similar alignment setup and they have never had a problem. swapping in a different steering stabilizer will help but it is a bandaid for the problem. If you go back & get the alignment setup as I mentioned & it still doesnt fix it... contact Don @ http://www.thurenfabrication.com/ and talk to him about the tracbar, steering stabilizer &big steering kits he has. he can point you in the right direction for a fix.

 
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Old Jul 25, 2007 | 08:00 PM
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oh yeah, another thing to point out... I live in CA... which means the roads here are amoung the worst in the continental US... if I were to have a DW issue waiting to happen, I'd know by now...
 
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Old Jul 25, 2007 | 10:21 PM
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hey bro, slow down. when did the problem start? after the new tires. i own a frame repair and alignment shop and can tell you that a shake vibration or wobble will NEVER be fixed by an alignment. are the tires the same size or did you go bigger? have the tires rebalanced by someone with a road force balancer hunter makes it . you have something shaking in the front not an alignment issue. you could have a broken belt in one of the tires happens alot .
 
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