Honestly - Do you buy Citgo fuel ??
At the risk of getting into a pissing match here, you might want to read this before you start boycotting companies based upon e-mails
http://www.snopes.com/politics/gasoline/citgo.asp
Please don't presume me as accepting any politcal stnace here, nor being part of Citgo or Petroleos De Venezuela, I am just someone who thinks more research should be done before crap like that gets spread around the internet.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/gasoline/citgo.asp
Please don't presume me as accepting any politcal stnace here, nor being part of Citgo or Petroleos De Venezuela, I am just someone who thinks more research should be done before crap like that gets spread around the internet.
Newspeak is alive and well in Venezuela. Last week, President Hugo Chávez portrayed planned constitutional amendments that would allow him to be re-elected indefinitely as a step toward “participatory democracy.â€
Mr. Chávez’s plan is just another step in the march to increase his government’s control over Venezuela’s politics and economy. Behind the Orwellian rhetorical tactics, his efforts to amass power and cling to it for as long as he can are undermining Venezuela’s democracy.
Mr. Chávez remains, at least technically, a democrat. He has repeatedly beaten Venezuela’s dysfunctional opposition in elections deemed fair by international observers. He won a landslide victory last December, extending his mandate until 2012. His proposed constitutional reforms must be submitted to a vote in the National Assembly and to a referendum.
But his government’s veneer of democratic respectability is wearing thin. Every member of the National Assembly is an ally of Mr. Chávez. His allies also run the Supreme Court, all but two state governments and Petróleos de Venezuela, the state oil company.
And his government has not been shy about using the apparatus of the state to boost Mr. Chávez’s vast popularity among Venezuela’s poor. After the government revoked the license of RCTV, an aggressive opposition television network, the government used it to create another pro-government mouthpiece. Buoyed by a public spending spree financed by high oil prices, Mr. Chávez has used his enormous popularity to extend his government’s power over big chunks of the economy, including the telephone and electricity companies.
His reform proposals would tighten the grip, nationalizing coal and gas, stripping the central bank of its independence and allowing the government to carry out expropriations of private property without obtaining judicial authority first.
Mr. Chávez’s claim that he is increasing “participatory democracy†by giving voice to Venezuela’s disenfranchised poor rests on gestures like the proposal to create grass-roots governing councils with executive authority over a range of issues. In fact, they would further erode democratic checks and balances by stripping power from state and local governments, where opposition parties retain some vestigial power, and giving it to entities dependent on the central government.
Indeed, Mr. Chávez’s plan to allow himself to run for re-election as many times as he wants — to achieve his stated goal of governing until the 200th anniversary of Venezuelan independence in 2021 — could lock Venezuela in the grip of an all-powerful strongman for years to come. It’s participatory democracy in which only Mr. Chávez and his friends get to participate.
Mr. Chávez’s plan is just another step in the march to increase his government’s control over Venezuela’s politics and economy. Behind the Orwellian rhetorical tactics, his efforts to amass power and cling to it for as long as he can are undermining Venezuela’s democracy.
Mr. Chávez remains, at least technically, a democrat. He has repeatedly beaten Venezuela’s dysfunctional opposition in elections deemed fair by international observers. He won a landslide victory last December, extending his mandate until 2012. His proposed constitutional reforms must be submitted to a vote in the National Assembly and to a referendum.
But his government’s veneer of democratic respectability is wearing thin. Every member of the National Assembly is an ally of Mr. Chávez. His allies also run the Supreme Court, all but two state governments and Petróleos de Venezuela, the state oil company.
And his government has not been shy about using the apparatus of the state to boost Mr. Chávez’s vast popularity among Venezuela’s poor. After the government revoked the license of RCTV, an aggressive opposition television network, the government used it to create another pro-government mouthpiece. Buoyed by a public spending spree financed by high oil prices, Mr. Chávez has used his enormous popularity to extend his government’s power over big chunks of the economy, including the telephone and electricity companies.
His reform proposals would tighten the grip, nationalizing coal and gas, stripping the central bank of its independence and allowing the government to carry out expropriations of private property without obtaining judicial authority first.
Mr. Chávez’s claim that he is increasing “participatory democracy†by giving voice to Venezuela’s disenfranchised poor rests on gestures like the proposal to create grass-roots governing councils with executive authority over a range of issues. In fact, they would further erode democratic checks and balances by stripping power from state and local governments, where opposition parties retain some vestigial power, and giving it to entities dependent on the central government.
Indeed, Mr. Chávez’s plan to allow himself to run for re-election as many times as he wants — to achieve his stated goal of governing until the 200th anniversary of Venezuelan independence in 2021 — could lock Venezuela in the grip of an all-powerful strongman for years to come. It’s participatory democracy in which only Mr. Chávez and his friends get to participate.
I used to buy at a Citgo becasue it was one of the cheaper staitions that I pass normally, but I don'tsince I read the emails. I never bothered to check it out at snopes until tonight. Snopes should stick to presenting the facts, their editorial on how this could never work sound like liberal BS to me. The fact is Chavez and his cronies benefit from Citgo sales. I won't sponsor that with my patronage.
I never got a "snopes" or what ever it is.. .never even knew it was a word till just now when i paid attention.... and just before that.... i was seeing the word snoopy..... shame on me... Never heard any of that... But remember... even terrorists.... dictators..... couch patatoes.....all have to pay for fuel to ship it else where.....just like eveyone else.....But think...the last i knew... doe'snt most of your OIL come from the middle east? I know we can produce our own.. but not enough....and Are'nt there a lot of Oil funded terrorists in the Middle East? At least in some round about way.....
I never really answered the question posed in my prior post..
NoI don't buy citgo fuel.. for one.. there isn't a citgo station in my town.. and two..I have paid as much as 15 cents more a gallon for biodiesel at the one place in town that sells it.. I'm a BIG supporter of biodiesel.. it's the one alternative fuel that total sense..I hope it continues to gain in popularity.. andI suppose if there was a Citgo selling B20.. I'd fill there.. rather than filling straight ULSD anyplace else.
NoI don't buy citgo fuel.. for one.. there isn't a citgo station in my town.. and two..I have paid as much as 15 cents more a gallon for biodiesel at the one place in town that sells it.. I'm a BIG supporter of biodiesel.. it's the one alternative fuel that total sense..I hope it continues to gain in popularity.. andI suppose if there was a Citgo selling B20.. I'd fill there.. rather than filling straight ULSD anyplace else.



