Dodge Ram Van The full size Dodge Ram Van that showed that we can go and do as we please. Discuss the Dodge Ram Van here today.

Ignition old school with a 1987 Ram van

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Apr 29, 2011 | 01:31 PM
  #1  
gexter's Avatar
gexter
Thread Starter
|
Registered User
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 20
Likes: 0
From: Canada
Default Ignition old school with a 1987 Ram van

Greetings

I recently bought another dodge van this one a Roadtrek motorhome. Its a 1987 318 2BL, It was running rich when I got it and decided to give it a tune up. I have to admit its been a long time since I saw a ignition coil and old school ignition. I am going to replace the cap and rotor and wires and have already replaced the plugs. But I figure that I should replace the points. Its been about twenty years since I saw points and no longer have a dwell meter. could anyone tell me if this unit uses a points and condensor or a upgraded electronic pickup and I don't have to worry about the dwell angle.

I also still have a high MSD Energy ignition blaster coil from almost thirty years ago I have lugged around for years does anyone know if I can use that or is it going to be a problem. I went with Champion platinum plugs already.

Thanks

Gexter

Gexter
 
Reply
Old Apr 29, 2011 | 10:04 PM
  #2  
master tech's Avatar
master tech
Site Moderator & Tech
15 Year Member
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 11,642
Likes: 108
From: Near Sacramento,ca
Default

You should already have electronic ignition. No points. If I remember right 1975 all mopar motors came electronic engine.
 
Reply
Old Apr 30, 2011 | 08:51 AM
  #3  
gexter's Avatar
gexter
Thread Starter
|
Registered User
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 20
Likes: 0
From: Canada
Default

Master tech, thanks for the prompt response since I want to finish my tune up this weekend.

The coil is the same size as the old style cylinder with the two small post and the center that goes to the rotor cap. It has a rotor and cap design. I will take off the cap and have a look inside it to see if its a electronic contact and not old style points.

Would you replace the original spark wires at 40 000 and not bother testing them

Any thoughts on replacing the old coil with a MSD blaster 2 ignition coil, should I place a resistor on the positive to tone it down.

PS I was digging through one of my old parts boxes that have traveled with me over the years and found my dwell meter, next stop is to see if the timing light is around somewhere.
Do I use # 1 for signal? to set the timing

Thanks again.
 
Reply
Old Apr 30, 2011 | 03:41 PM
  #4  
Mobile Auto Repair's Avatar
Mobile Auto Repair
Record Breaker
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 1,174
Likes: 1
From: North TX
Default

I would replace the spark plug wires due to age of them.

Replacing the OEM coil with a MSD Blaster II coil AND then putting a resistor on it defeats the purpose of going to the MSD coil pack. Unless you are having problems the stock coil pack is very sufficient.

Yes use Number 1 plug for the timing reference.
 
Reply
Old Apr 30, 2011 | 08:40 PM
  #5  
Leeann's Avatar
Leeann
Rookie
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 87
Likes: 0
From:
Default

Yup, you don't have points. Even my '73 motorhome with a 440 has electronic ignition.

I've found that just putting in a new coil does everything needed - no M$D required. And yes, I'd replace the wires.
 
Reply
Old May 1, 2011 | 08:51 AM
  #6  
nibroc's Avatar
nibroc
Captain
15 Year Member
Liked
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 518
Likes: 19
From: the 'ville, kentucky
Default

Yup--73 MH w/440 has electronic ign. am scrapping the mh and trying to sell motor and trans.
 
Reply
Old May 1, 2011 | 09:19 AM
  #7  
gexter's Avatar
gexter
Thread Starter
|
Registered User
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 20
Likes: 0
From: Canada
Default

Thanks everyone I took the advice. replaced wires, plugs and ,rotor,
rotor cap, left original coil and did a synthetic oil change. idle speed increased and better burning no black smoke out the pipe when you give it a shot on the gas. valve train as nosier, likely due to the synthetic oil.

Never got to work on a engine inside a vehicle before nice!

One more question unrelated to the tune up. there is a plate in the exhaust pipe that is drilled like a restrictor "spark arrestor"? Would that make any difference in performance if I took it out or is it against the "rules" I remember seeing them in the old vehicles but have not seen them in years. Still looking at tweaking performance and muffler change next year.

thanks All
 
Reply




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:05 PM.