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Lodge plugs were quite good,they were mostly used in European cars.
http://answers.ask.com/Computers/Oth...the_spark_plug
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Yep. This was on an 1979 Alfa Romeo Alfetta sedan that I bought from an Alfa mechanic named Andino. He worked at Alfa's HQ building in Englewood Cliffs NJ back in the late 80's before Alfa left the U.S. and Ferrari bought the building. The final 2.0L version of the "Nord" twincam engine was the best one and it came to me with Lodge plugs installed and a spare set (carefully gapped by Andino) in the trunk.
The engine in the pic has carbs in place of the Spica fuel injection but you get the idea.
Wow, we're way off topic - sorry guys.
The engine in the pic has carbs in place of the Spica fuel injection but you get the idea.
Wow, we're way off topic - sorry guys.
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Dude I'm sorry, but if you're getting that mad about the truth, it's because you KNOW it's the truth. It's not about getting up on the wrong side of the bed, it's certainly not about cleaning a GD fuel tank out well enough; it's a simple, well known fact that Airtex pumps are garbage. Anyone who works on cars knows this, and if they deny it, then they do that because they enjoy effing customers or are too stupid to see that these pumps are ****e. They are especially bad in GM vehicles, where continuous fuel pressure is absolutely crucial. Parts houses are stopping sales on them for a reason- do you think it's because they are so reliable? Really, do you?
You all may have used fram for 95 years, but they are known to come apart internally (cardboard guts) as well as pop right off the block (crappy metal used for threads). This is why they are being sued, and it is also why they are backpedalling like crazy, trying to redesign the terrible filters they make. Microguard is the same way. I will pay extra on parts house oil specials to get the better filter to avoid EFFING CUSTOMERS OR MYSELF FOR $1-4 SAVINGS. Would you have used east coast oil back in the day to save yourself some money, even when you knew it was full of paraffin? No, not if you had a GD head on your shoulders.
I think it is wrong to sell crap parts to honest people. That's why I use known good parts that I can stand behind. It's not a rant when it's true. Think about it.
You all may have used fram for 95 years, but they are known to come apart internally (cardboard guts) as well as pop right off the block (crappy metal used for threads). This is why they are being sued, and it is also why they are backpedalling like crazy, trying to redesign the terrible filters they make. Microguard is the same way. I will pay extra on parts house oil specials to get the better filter to avoid EFFING CUSTOMERS OR MYSELF FOR $1-4 SAVINGS. Would you have used east coast oil back in the day to save yourself some money, even when you knew it was full of paraffin? No, not if you had a GD head on your shoulders.
I think it is wrong to sell crap parts to honest people. That's why I use known good parts that I can stand behind. It's not a rant when it's true. Think about it.
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Well it is certainly written as a full on rant.
While I agree the orange can fram is junk, especially compared to other filters in the same price range, they are hardly grenading cars they are installed in.
I'm not finding any info about lawsuits against fram. Got any links?
While the 'fiberboard' endcaps scream junk, they actually adhere to the filter media better than metal endcaps. It is actually pretty easy to pull the metal endcaps off the glue/filter element upon disection of my purolators, but since there is a spring holding it together in side the filter, no big issue.
But if the fiberboard endcaps are ok, then why do they use metal endcaps on their higher end filters? The orange can of death's reputation is much worse than its failure rate, and in 30 years from now, long after Fram will have abandoned the cardboard, people will still remember. Much as today, many say Pennzoil causes sludge, though that has not been true since the early 80's. And Pennzoil's lineup of oils is now very impressive, especially Ultra with their gas to liquid basestocks and their super low Noack volatility.
But all anyone with any years on them will remember is parrafin and sludge. and yell it at anyone who will listen, or pretend to.
I agree the quality of most parts available these days has taken a steep nosedive. The good brand names are relying on their reputation even as their quality continues to decline as their outsourced foreign production managers search for more and more cost cutting, profit maximizing, shortsighted methods.
I hope your fuel pump exchange solves your issues, but we will likely never know, if it does not.
While I agree the orange can fram is junk, especially compared to other filters in the same price range, they are hardly grenading cars they are installed in.
I'm not finding any info about lawsuits against fram. Got any links?
While the 'fiberboard' endcaps scream junk, they actually adhere to the filter media better than metal endcaps. It is actually pretty easy to pull the metal endcaps off the glue/filter element upon disection of my purolators, but since there is a spring holding it together in side the filter, no big issue.
But if the fiberboard endcaps are ok, then why do they use metal endcaps on their higher end filters? The orange can of death's reputation is much worse than its failure rate, and in 30 years from now, long after Fram will have abandoned the cardboard, people will still remember. Much as today, many say Pennzoil causes sludge, though that has not been true since the early 80's. And Pennzoil's lineup of oils is now very impressive, especially Ultra with their gas to liquid basestocks and their super low Noack volatility.
But all anyone with any years on them will remember is parrafin and sludge. and yell it at anyone who will listen, or pretend to.
I agree the quality of most parts available these days has taken a steep nosedive. The good brand names are relying on their reputation even as their quality continues to decline as their outsourced foreign production managers search for more and more cost cutting, profit maximizing, shortsighted methods.
I hope your fuel pump exchange solves your issues, but we will likely never know, if it does not.
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You may have 60 years of professional experience but nobody here knows a thing about you until you offer some advice and solutions that actually have the ability to help someone.
Get with the program. Until you do you're just some dude with only 6 posts -- and very little respect.
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Of course you'll know whether the fuel pump solves my issues. I am many things, but not a liar, even by omission. It isn't useful information if it's edited and biased information.
Fram was being sued in 2011. t Now they have revised the structure of their filters. What does this say to you? I don't need to google links for you so that I can "gain respect" on an internet forum. In case you haven't noticed, this isn't real life.
Of course, here's an email to an independent surveyor of fram's crap, from someone who knows:
Seems like 5 seconds on google produced results that anyone could find. Unless their *** is chapped about CRAPPY AMERICAN PRODUCTS.
Quit moaning. When I eff up my van with a delphi, I'll come crawling back with my tail between my legs. Until then, **** fram, autolite, and airtex. They suck and this has been proven.
Fram was being sued in 2011. t Now they have revised the structure of their filters. What does this say to you? I don't need to google links for you so that I can "gain respect" on an internet forum. In case you haven't noticed, this isn't real life.
Of course, here's an email to an independent surveyor of fram's crap, from someone who knows:
Russell,
I obtained great satisfaction from reading your oil filter survey.
I worked for two years as the oil-filter production line engineer in
an Allied-Signal FRAM facility and I can confirm every bad thing you
have said about FRAM automotive filters. That's from the horse's
mouth, as it were.
I'm also a quality engineer and can confirm that FRAM applies no
quality control whatsoever to any of the characteristics for which we
buy oil filters. I frequently saw filter designs which were barely
capable of meeting J806. Many of FRAM's designs will block and go to
bypass after trying to filter very little contamination. There were
often leakage paths at the paper end discs when these were not
properly centered on the elements. Some designs had the pleats so
tightly packed against the center tube that they would block off in no
time. I had discovered that the FRAM HP1 that I had been buying for
about $20 Cdn was EXACTLY the same as a PH8 inside - the only
difference being a heavier can - no advantages in flow capacity. The
paper filtration media was of apparently poor quality and the process
of curing the paper resin was very inconsistent - elements would range
from visibly burnt to white. FRAM's marketers admitted that there was
just about no way the public could ever prove that an oil filter
contributed, or did not prevent, engine damage. The only thing FRAM
tested for was can burst strength. Another problem that they have from
time to time is in threading the filter base - often there are strands
of metal left behind on a poorly formed thread.
I have not used a FRAM filter since I started working there. Their
claims are entirely and completely marketing bull****.
If people really want to protect their engines, a good air filter is
vital (which excludes FRAM from that list as well) and a combination
of one depth and one full-flow hydraulic filter, together in parallel,
will do the job of filtration to perfection.
Thanks for doing a great job in trying to get the truth out! You can
quote me anytime.
[name omitted to protect submitter]
I obtained great satisfaction from reading your oil filter survey.
I worked for two years as the oil-filter production line engineer in
an Allied-Signal FRAM facility and I can confirm every bad thing you
have said about FRAM automotive filters. That's from the horse's
mouth, as it were.
I'm also a quality engineer and can confirm that FRAM applies no
quality control whatsoever to any of the characteristics for which we
buy oil filters. I frequently saw filter designs which were barely
capable of meeting J806. Many of FRAM's designs will block and go to
bypass after trying to filter very little contamination. There were
often leakage paths at the paper end discs when these were not
properly centered on the elements. Some designs had the pleats so
tightly packed against the center tube that they would block off in no
time. I had discovered that the FRAM HP1 that I had been buying for
about $20 Cdn was EXACTLY the same as a PH8 inside - the only
difference being a heavier can - no advantages in flow capacity. The
paper filtration media was of apparently poor quality and the process
of curing the paper resin was very inconsistent - elements would range
from visibly burnt to white. FRAM's marketers admitted that there was
just about no way the public could ever prove that an oil filter
contributed, or did not prevent, engine damage. The only thing FRAM
tested for was can burst strength. Another problem that they have from
time to time is in threading the filter base - often there are strands
of metal left behind on a poorly formed thread.
I have not used a FRAM filter since I started working there. Their
claims are entirely and completely marketing bull****.
If people really want to protect their engines, a good air filter is
vital (which excludes FRAM from that list as well) and a combination
of one depth and one full-flow hydraulic filter, together in parallel,
will do the job of filtration to perfection.
Thanks for doing a great job in trying to get the truth out! You can
quote me anytime.
[name omitted to protect submitter]
Seems like 5 seconds on google produced results that anyone could find. Unless their *** is chapped about CRAPPY AMERICAN PRODUCTS.
Quit moaning. When I eff up my van with a delphi, I'll come crawling back with my tail between my legs. Until then, **** fram, autolite, and airtex. They suck and this has been proven.
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Having respect, even on an internet forum is what gives believability to what you write. Without respect you are just looked upon as a real-world jerk off that's stopped by to spend some time practicing at it.
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So here I am again, much to your collective chagrin.
I changed the airtex BS pump to a delphi "cadillac of fuel pumps" fuel pump (is that really saying something when you call something the cadillac of its kind?).
All was fine til yesterday, when the van acted up again. Thought it could be the weather, was dry yesterday, rainy today, acted up today, too.
Van has no cat and 2 O2s. I have a brand new cat, gonna weld that in and see if anything changes- any suggestions other than that?
I changed the airtex BS pump to a delphi "cadillac of fuel pumps" fuel pump (is that really saying something when you call something the cadillac of its kind?).
All was fine til yesterday, when the van acted up again. Thought it could be the weather, was dry yesterday, rainy today, acted up today, too.
Van has no cat and 2 O2s. I have a brand new cat, gonna weld that in and see if anything changes- any suggestions other than that?
