Ho hum. Both of my Dodge's were made in the USA (of parts sourced who knows where). Many of the Rams are made in Mexico. ALL Titans are made in the USA. All of them. The profits go to France, by way of Japan. Dodge's profits go to Germany, by way of Detroit.

So however you want to look at it, the profits aren't sticking around in the USA, but one manufacturer actually has sent jobs to another country. Buy a Titan and you're putting food on an American dinner plate. Buy a Ram and you may be feeding a Mexican instead.

I've got no problems with this, it's just I get sick and tired of the rah rah buy American BS when it's a GLOBAL economy and there isn't really an American company in question here.


That said, if I was looking at getting a 1/2ton for a play truck I'd probably go with the Titan due to the neat features unavailable on the Ram. If I wanted a work truck, I'd get a 3/4ton Ram.

 

Um, the Titan weighs around 5000 pounds, give or take.
How much does a Quad cab Ram 1500 4x4 weigh? About 5200. That's a HUGE difference.

 

yeah, i thought the gears were good enough and the hemi was strong about the hp and torque but with chevy, ford, and toyota???....F them, i feel bad already[sm=wtf.gif][sm=vader.gif]btw, my dad is a toyota person with econmy in mind like always

 

the titans 3.36 gears equate to 4.10 gears on a hemi. put 4.10's on a hemi and then see what happens.

 

im not going to get into a argument over all this dodge Vs Nissan thing.

What i will say is the comment about Nissan taking toyotas spot light, to ****ing right they should, the tundra looks gash!

 

Actually, the Titan has more torque than the Hemi-the Hemi has more HP. Although, I'm not so sure. I've seen Hemi's that dyno in the 250 to 260 range, with less than 300 ft lbs' of torque. The Titan's on the other hand, STOCk dyno (between) 260 and 278, depending on the dyno, and OVER 300 ft. lbs' of torque.

And Titan's aren't light-my CC 4X4 with me and just over half a tank of gas weighs 5300 lbs. And the Titan has a larger payload and tow capacity than the Ram QC.

As for speed, I've raced QC Hemi's and they are SLOW! Stock, they can't get out of their own way-sorry to say it. RC's, are a deifferent story, which leads to my next question-how is it the Ram loses so much power going from a RC to a QC-not enough torque.

And as for the 0-60 times, I'd really not take what C&D says-they're quicker than a 7.2 for a 2WD.

So, when all things considered, Titan is the best 1/2 ton truck on the market. That's why they've been winning all the awards.

 

If you ask me. I really think they should have put more thought into the new ram 1500,2500,3500. i know we are talking 05-down, but the truck is pretty well the same, just different shell. The engine could use more power and torque. Both the hemi and 4.7L. See, i just think it is wrong that a Japanise truck is the best in N.A.

 

Well, I'm sure it gets expensive for car makers to keep making changes. Dodge is working on changes for the future.

But I like to think Dodge has been motivated by Nissan. I could be wrong, but I don't think so...

 

You guys are forgetting the most important aspect of a truck. You can play with those numbers all you want, but when i'm looking for a truck i'm looking for something with a sturdy suspension and frame. I dont want something that will fall apart in 5 years. Seeing as dodge has dealt in full size light trucks for years and the jap companies are fairly new in the market, i'm not even 2nd guessing my decision to buy my 2nd dodge truck in a row. Its also amusing that the one guy believes all the hp and torque #s, but when it comes to a published 0-60 time he doesnt. 0-60 times in car and driver are actually corrected values for elevation. If anything they probably list them a little faster than they typically are. And then again you have to look carefully at what zdive65 said. He beat some dodge hemis, he beat some titans.......when you're talking about a 10 hp difference in the two, you're only talking about a 3 or 4% difference. I can go get 15 titan motors and 15 hemi and i guarantee you that some of the hemis are gonna dyno stronger than the titans.

 

That's what I love about Dodge Ram owners, as soon as one weakness is exposed, they jump to something else.

The motor of the Ram might dyno higher, but it's gotta be hooked to something, and the trannyand drivetrain is what's killing the Ram.
Jap companies,or Nissan, has been making trucks since 1959-not full size ones, but trucks. And as for reliability, we won't talk about Dodge b/c they don't have the most stellar record-transmissions...

And the HP difference between the two is more than 10, Titan has 305hp and the Hemi Ram has 345hp. That's more than 10. And as for the 0-60 times, they're off. Everyone knows that.

Just remember, the Titan may be a Nissan product, but it's made here in America. The Ram on the other hand, is made in Mexico, on top of that, it's parent company, is in Germany-so much for American made!!