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would a 3.0 stealth win against a 1st gen. neon?

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Old Mar 29, 2007 | 12:06 AM
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Default RE: would a 3.0 stealth win against a 1st gen. neon?

just wanted to add that 1994-1996 TT models have 320 hp and first gen should have 300 hp
EDIT: btw, did anybody notice that the most meaningless post is geting the most replyes?
 
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Old Mar 29, 2007 | 01:16 AM
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Yes, he's right, the 1st gens are only rated at 300 hp.

http://www.stealth316.com/2-freeboost.htm <-----for the free boost mod. That little nipple that can be easily removed is the only difference in regards to HP between the 1st and 2nd gens.
 
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Old Mar 29, 2007 | 03:11 AM
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Dohc stealths are "Factory" rated at 224. Thats nonsense...they are more like a 170-180 horse engine to the wheels. The tt models are faster (obviously) but in order to pull a 14 flat....if they were 300 or better to the wheels they would be in the 13s easy in my opinion. Im not taking away from them they are awesome engines ...the Dohc heads flow amazingly but the simple fact of the matter is....they are overrated horse wise from the factory. There was a guy on 3si who had a 3000gt who bought a brand new dohc engine. No miles bone stock dropped it in with the only mod being the test pipe...dynoed 180whp and i forget the torque. So with that in mind the 220 horse would have to be crank horse...but most people think thats what they are getting to the ground which isnt the case.
 
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Old Mar 29, 2007 | 03:21 AM
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ive seen srt4's beat the vr4s, their quiet a bit lighter compared to the vr4's awd or not them bein that heavy slows them down compared to the srt4.
 
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Old Mar 29, 2007 | 04:43 AM
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ORIGINAL: irocelectric93

Dohc stealths are "Factory" rated at 224. Thats nonsense...they are more like a 170-180 horse engine to the wheels. The tt models are faster (obviously) but in order to pull a 14 flat....if they were 300 or better to the wheels they would be in the 13s easy in my opinion. Im not taking away from them they are awesome engines ...the Dohc heads flow amazingly but the simple fact of the matter is....they are overrated horse wise from the factory. There was a guy on 3si who had a 3000gt who bought a brand new dohc engine. No miles bone stock dropped it in with the only mod being the test pipe...dynoed 180whp and i forget the torque. So with that in mind the 220 horse would have to be crank horse...but most people think thats what they are getting to the ground which isnt the case.
In almost every instance, we're talking HP to the crank, not the wheels.....in fact, unless its actually stated that the HP rating is to the wheels...you should always assume its to the crank. Drivetrain loss accounts for between 15-25% loss in HP.

180whp is about right for a 224chp motor...

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ive seen srt4's beat the vr4s, their quiet a bit lighter compared to the vr4's awd or not them bein that heavy slows them down compared to the srt4.
I've also seen LS1 Camaros crush a SRT-4.....it's a drivers race.....and thats all it is..... I dont care how heavy/light a car is......both are basically a 14 flat second car, and it comes down to who launches and hit the gears right the fastest.....

And if a 7000lbs truck can do a 1/4 mile in 14 seconds, its still every bit as fast as that SRT-4 Neon.....so the weight issue is a nonfactor at that point...
 
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Old Mar 29, 2007 | 12:20 PM
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Default RE: would a 3.0 stealth win against a 1st gen. neon?

If you wanna get technical, the DOHC's were rated (at the crank) 222 and later 218.
 
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Old Mar 29, 2007 | 07:08 PM
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Devilsreject...you are absolutely right and i was just stating the facts ...thats it. My point was ive talked to stealth owners who think they are putting more to the ground than they think. The stealth...you are also right. Im just stating facts...the original point...the stealth would more than likely beat the neon.
 
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Old Mar 30, 2007 | 05:12 AM
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Lol of course a LS1 could beat a SRT4, my friend has a 11second stock ls1 camaro.
 
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Old Mar 30, 2007 | 02:34 PM
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Wow...thats the worst lie ive ever heard. That ls1 isnt stock then if its running in the 11s. Thats like saying it can smoke an 03 cobra....which runs in the 12s. Also like saying it can beat a viper....or a zo6. Somehow i highly doubt it if its "stock"
 
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Old Mar 30, 2007 | 03:24 PM
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I'm with irocelectric...11's is a pretty good stretch considerind most run in the mid 13's stock.
 
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