BEST TECH! Please Help with driveabilty issue
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BEST TECH! Please Help with driveabilty issue
First, I want to say that I am new here. I do not own a dodge truck (I am a shelby dodge guy though), but I am working on one now and need some help. I am an ASE certified (as if that means anything) technician, and I teach auto technology for a living. SO, I am not inexperienced at this. This is the first problem I have come across in a really long time that I am ready to throw in the towel on. I am coming to you guys for help......so please help!
OK here it is: Its a 95 Ram 1500, 4x4, 5.2, auto. The truck runs rough and stalls out at idle. It runs good as long as there is a load on the motor. This is an intermittent thing....and theres no rhyme or reason to when it happens, but happens mostly when its cold. Sometimes it runs PERFECT. When it does run rough, it is running PIG rich.....over 1 volt on the O2. The MAP is showing 2.5 volts at idle, which is very high. Something is causing an erroneous vacuum reading or something....... Ive checked many, many things. Fuel pressure is a steady 41 PSI. Ive checked for vacuum leaks inside the crankcase thinking it might be the infamous intake gaskets....no dice. Ive replace the MAP, TPS, Idle motor and coolant temp sensor. Ive double checked grounds to the PCM and important voltages (like MAP and O2) at the PCM. Wiring doesnt appear to be a problem. I know that these PCM's rarely go bad, but I swapped in another PCM from another truck. No change. At my wits end, I leak tested the EGR and it was leaking a bit, so I made a block off plate and installed it. No change. IVe even done all the tune up stuff...... Im going nuts here and I am running out of ideas Ive got a scanner, DVOM, and all the test equipment (except the chrysler DRB), so I do not lack resources. Does anyone have any ideas?
If you can give me a good tip and lead me to the fix, a thank you note and check will be in the mail to you ASAP!
-Sean
OK here it is: Its a 95 Ram 1500, 4x4, 5.2, auto. The truck runs rough and stalls out at idle. It runs good as long as there is a load on the motor. This is an intermittent thing....and theres no rhyme or reason to when it happens, but happens mostly when its cold. Sometimes it runs PERFECT. When it does run rough, it is running PIG rich.....over 1 volt on the O2. The MAP is showing 2.5 volts at idle, which is very high. Something is causing an erroneous vacuum reading or something....... Ive checked many, many things. Fuel pressure is a steady 41 PSI. Ive checked for vacuum leaks inside the crankcase thinking it might be the infamous intake gaskets....no dice. Ive replace the MAP, TPS, Idle motor and coolant temp sensor. Ive double checked grounds to the PCM and important voltages (like MAP and O2) at the PCM. Wiring doesnt appear to be a problem. I know that these PCM's rarely go bad, but I swapped in another PCM from another truck. No change. At my wits end, I leak tested the EGR and it was leaking a bit, so I made a block off plate and installed it. No change. IVe even done all the tune up stuff...... Im going nuts here and I am running out of ideas Ive got a scanner, DVOM, and all the test equipment (except the chrysler DRB), so I do not lack resources. Does anyone have any ideas?
If you can give me a good tip and lead me to the fix, a thank you note and check will be in the mail to you ASAP!
-Sean
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RE: BEST TECH! Please Help with driveabilty issue
ORIGINAL: Leonard
Just a WAG here but is the battery fully charged?
Even if it has enough power to start but is low it could cause it to run weird.
Try that and if it works PM me for the mailing address for the check.
Just a WAG here but is the battery fully charged?
Even if it has enough power to start but is low it could cause it to run weird.
Try that and if it works PM me for the mailing address for the check.
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RE: BEST TECH! Please Help with driveabilty issue
first off... your fuel pressure sounds like it's outa spec... from my understanding, the non-return type fuel rails need the fuel pressure at 49 psi +/- 5psi, you mention that it runs right most of the time and when it does run rough, it's rich... could you have a vacuum leak that is intermittant? As in maybe the brake booster is leaky, (that's the case on my truck), and could your throttle body need a good cleaning, as in IAC and the little air ports might be plugged. Also there is a problem with the vacuum controller going to the enviromental controller inside the cab, there is a vacuum line and a check valve that will go bad causing the flaps to go to defrost under low vacuum conditions (probably doesnt apply in this case but thought I'd throw that at you anyway). also the CAD unit for the 4x4 also has vacuum line to it and it could be leaky.
Another spot is the EVAP canister, they get busted, lines get old, cracked and can leak intermittantly... check those out
please post back what you find in any of this...
Another spot is the EVAP canister, they get busted, lines get old, cracked and can leak intermittantly... check those out
please post back what you find in any of this...
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RE: BEST TECH! Please Help with driveabilty issue
ORIGINAL: steve00ram360
first off... your fuel pressure sounds like it's outa spec... from my understanding, the non-return type fuel rails need the fuel pressure at 49 psi +/- 5psi, you mention that it runs right most of the time and when it does run rough, it's rich... could you have a vacuum leak that is intermittant? As in maybe the brake booster is leaky, (that's the case on my truck), and could your throttle body need a good cleaning, as in IAC and the little air ports might be plugged. Also there is a problem with the vacuum controller going to the enviromental controller inside the cab, there is a vacuum line and a check valve that will go bad causing the flaps to go to defrost under low vacuum conditions (probably doesnt apply in this case but thought I'd throw that at you anyway). also the CAD unit for the 4x4 also has vacuum line to it and it could be leaky.
Another spot is the EVAP canister, they get busted, lines get old, cracked and can leak intermittantly... check those out
please post back what you find in any of this...
first off... your fuel pressure sounds like it's outa spec... from my understanding, the non-return type fuel rails need the fuel pressure at 49 psi +/- 5psi, you mention that it runs right most of the time and when it does run rough, it's rich... could you have a vacuum leak that is intermittant? As in maybe the brake booster is leaky, (that's the case on my truck), and could your throttle body need a good cleaning, as in IAC and the little air ports might be plugged. Also there is a problem with the vacuum controller going to the enviromental controller inside the cab, there is a vacuum line and a check valve that will go bad causing the flaps to go to defrost under low vacuum conditions (probably doesnt apply in this case but thought I'd throw that at you anyway). also the CAD unit for the 4x4 also has vacuum line to it and it could be leaky.
Another spot is the EVAP canister, they get busted, lines get old, cracked and can leak intermittantly... check those out
please post back what you find in any of this...
The grounds are weird on this thing. I check the grounds at the PCM with the connector disconnected and I get .4 ohms, which is good. Now, if I plug it in and turn the key on, the grounds go to 60 ohms. Now, I think this is due to the fact that I am introducing the PCM into the circuit and now I am seeing the resistance through the PCM......but I am not sure. 60 ohms is a lot. I want to set this thing on fire[:'(]