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Jan 19, 2004 | 02:55 AM

WankerWeasel

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Lookin’ into a SRT-4

I'm lookin' into gettin' a '04 SRT-4 and I have some questions. If you guys could help me out that would be great. Right now I have a '93 SHO. It has a 220hp 3.2L DOHC that is basically stock other then a K&N filter. It's got full suspension (Eibachs, Koni adjustable struts, AL subframe bushings, custom full length subframe connectors, GTP adjustable control arms, 26mm rear anti-roll bar, strut tower braces,etc), +96 brakes, and handles amazing. I just had the transmission rebuilt with a TransGo shift kit, additional clutch, and extra steel added to 1st - 3rd gear. Shifts are perfect every time now. The car has 185K (almost all highway) on it but runs like its new (pulls hard all the way to the 7K rpm redline). It's very clean all around. It was owned by a Ford Master Tech and he replaced just about everything you can think of. Even the window moldings were replaced ($750) cause his wife thought they didn't look good once they got old and started to bubble a lil in places. Now I'm lookin' for something faster.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com

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1) What kinda of issues are people havin' with these cars? Any maintenance problems? Any recalls?<o

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2) What kinda of warranty does the Qualife diff have? I know the Qualife TB diffs that we all put in our MTX SHO's come with a lifetime race warranty. 10 years from now, if your runnin' 2000hp (just to prove a point) and 1/4 milin' and the diff goes, they will replace it with no questions asked. As of now, only 2 have ever been broken and both were by the same SC SHO guy. Even when they do go, they don't blow the diff pin through the tranny, they just act like an open diff.<o

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3) What kinds of mods WILL NOT void the factory warranty?<o

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4) Are there any other options for other spoilers that will fit it? I'd want something smaller. Do the spoilers from other Neon's fit?<o

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5)What are people payin' for new '04 SRT-4's?<o

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6) Are the engines holdin' up well? Who's got the most miles on there SRT-4? I've heard lots of question over how well these rev happy engines will hold up over time.<o

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8) Are there any user programmable ECU's available?<o

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9) How much boost can the stock turbo's handle? How much can the stock internals handle? <o

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10) Is the hood scoop functional? I heard it was but it seems none of the available cold air kits use it.<o

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11) Is the stock alternator up to the task of powering a big stereo system? Right now I run 2000watts with my stock 130amp alternator but I'll be upgrading to 4000watts soon. I have a 1faraud cap now but will most likley goto a 5 or 10 farad (I can get them VERY cheap). I may also add a dry cell battery. Does anyone offer custom fit subwoofer enclosures?<o

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12) How are the stock clutches holdin' up with added power? Are they a pain to change yourself? Is it a hard engine to work on in general?<o

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14) Are there HID's available? One of my co-workers has a '03 SXT and he had Sylvania Silverstar headlights and they looked killer til' they fry'd his harnesses all the way up to the multifunction switch. Dealer wanted $1400 to replace it. Can you change the fogs to driving lights?<o

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Is there anything else I should know when lookin'? Any help you guy can provide would be great. Thanks alot.<o

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400hp at 4500rpms is nice. As you can see, the power really comes on when you hit 4500rpms and the secondary intake runners open up. He's still running very rich and you can see something happened at about 5300rpms. He'll be puttin' in a ECU tuner as soon as they are available at the start of next month. With new heads and cams, +500hp won't be a problem. EH the intake and alil morework and he could see 600hp. Amazing how these engines respond to a lil' boost. <edited><editID>WankerWeasel</editID><editDate>38005.0410532407</editDate></edited>

Jan 19, 2004 | 02:59 AM

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wow, thats a long post. somebody has done some homework.

Jan 20, 2004 | 02:20 AM

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I'll try my best to answer your questions. But I would suggest you to sign on at: http://www.srtforums.com/forums/foru...hp?s=&foru mid=10

There are whelm of excellent informationsincludes different mods for the SRT's. 

1) What kinda of issues are people havin' with these cars? Any maintenance problems? Any recalls?

There are a few reported problems with their 03' clutches but I've experience no such issue with any04' to the best of my knowledge. There were suspicions that the problems may arise from overly abusive owners? <IMG src=smileys/smiley1.gif border="0">

2) What kinda of warranty does the Qualife diff have? I know the Qualife TB diffs that we all put in our MTX SHO's come with a lifetime race warranty. 10 years from now, if your runnin' 2000hp (just to prove a point) and 1/4 milin' and the diff goes, they will replace it with no questions asked. As of now, only 2 have ever been broken and both were by the same SC SHO guy. Even when they do go, they don't blow the diff pin through the tranny, they just act like an open diff.

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3) What kinds of mods WILL NOT void the factory warranty?

Basically, any mods will void factory warranty BUT there are some dealers will honor your factory warranty if they do the install of Mopar Performance parts.

4) Are there any other options for other spoilers that will fit it? I'd want something smaller. Do the spoilers from other Neon's fit?

Yes, there are other spoilers that will fit an SRT-4. Check withthe supporting vendors on that site http://www.srtforums.com/forums/foru...hp?s=&foru mid=10

5)What are people payin' for new '04 SRT-4's?

You shouldn't or I wouldn't pay over msrp?

6) Are the engines holdin' up well? Who's got the most miles on there SRT-4? I've heard lots of question over how well these rev happy engines will hold up over time.

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7)Are the brakes big enough? The stock brakes on '89-'95 SHO's suck and need to be upgraded (SHOStopper big brakes are the same as the ones used on ZR-1 Corvette with bigger calipers and will do just fine).

IMHO, the stock brakes are very good. But you can always upgrades it for offroad racing?

8) Are there any user programmable ECU's available?

Mopar has different stage upgrades from Stage1,2,3,3R! All these upgrades comes with new PCM - more aggressive programing. Stage two will be available in early Feb. and 3 later in the year/summer or fall?

9) How much boost can the stock turbo's handle? How much can the stock internals handle? 

I'veheard there's a SRT-4 drag car uses the stock internals pushing out 600hp? Many on the SRTforums are pushing out 17-19 psi due to the smaller turbo.Mopar Stage 3/R will come with an new higher volume turbo replacement. Have a look at Mopar online cataloge: http://www.mopar.com/catalogs.htm

10) Is the hood scoop functional? I heard it was but it seems none of the available cold air kits use it.

Yes, it's basically to feed coolerair to the turbo. I'd opened upmy scoop to get even more air flow.

11) Is the stock alternator up to the task of powering a big stereo system? Right now I run 2000watts with my stock 130amp alternator but I'll be upgrading to 4000watts soon. I have a 1faraud cap now but will most likley goto a 5 or 10 farad (I can get them VERY cheap). I may also add a dry cell battery. Does anyone offer custom fit subwoofer enclosures?

Sorry, don't have an answer but someone on the SRTforum.com may have an answer for you.

12) How are the stock clutches holdin' up with added power? Are they a pain to change yourself? Is it a hard engine to work on in general?<o

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13) Are the seat bolsters adjustable? How many adjustmentsare there (SHO's have 8 way power adjustable, bolster and lumbar control)? Does the interiorfeel cheap and plastic(I know mostNeons seem tolack in this department)? Leather isn't an option is it? 

There are two choices for front seats, a viper design non adjustable (very supportive side bolsters) and the other one with side airbag not sure if they are power adjusted or not.

14) Are there HID's available? One of my co-workers has a '03 SXT and he had Sylvania Silverstar headlights and they looked killer til' they fry'd his harnesses all the way up to the multifunction switch. Dealer wanted $1400 to replace it. Can you change the fogs to driving lights?

I am not sure what the law is in your area in regards to daytime driving lights. We are required by law and our daytime driving lights are the fogs lights on the SRT-4.

Is there anything else I should know when lookin'? Any help you guy can provide would be great. Thanks alot.

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Jan 20, 2004 | 04:13 AM

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The hood scoop can also be used for ram air. There is ducting from the scoop that goes over the air box, cut a hole in both and you have ram air. <img border="0" src=smileys/smiley2.gif border="0">

Jan 20, 2004 | 08:08 PM

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roadrunner, ive got a question for you, i talked to you a little
on cold air intakes in another post, but the ram air hood just had me
think of something. im eventually going to install a ram air hood with
functional air induction, but couldnt rain, especially during a
downpour, soak the filter and go into the engine, like what we
discussed about sport compacts cai and the problem with them being
mounted so low. also, what about when it snows out, and you got a build
up on the hood, now i know the smart thing would be to move it
off the hood, but if it were blocked, wouldnt that effect performance
drastically? just some things i thought you might know.

Jan 20, 2004 | 08:49 PM

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I do know one thing about moding cars. Dealers CAN NOT by LAW void your warrantyfor having mods. They have to prove the connection of whatever problem you are having with the said modification. Even if they do prove that a mod induced your problem, then that does not mean your whole warranty is voided, just that problem will not be fixed under warranty. Dont let dealers pop your hood and see an induction system and then blame a clutch failure on the induction. Again, they have to prove mechanically how the mod caused a problem, they can not just point fingers and say "its because of that". If they deny your warranty work, make them put in writting why it was denied. If it doesnt make since to you, then it is probably bs, and your should fight them. Once you learn more about the law it will become easy. The dealers get paid MORE for warranty work than non-warranty work. Besides my 04 srt-4 i have a 02 svt focus with a jackson racingblower @15pounds(svts come n/a), quaife, clutch, flywheel, induction, coil pack, wires, no cat, borla exhaust, steeda shifter, pro flow maf, 42 pound injectors, and suspension mods. My dealer still warranties things that I believe to be faulty parts. I have had an altenator replaced, power steering pump replaced, power steering high pressure hose replaced, andboth rear control armsunder warranty with all of the above mods. My dealer knows that I know the laws. They gave me crap the first time I tried to get something fixed, but there was no way I was paying for a faulty part that I had nothing to do with breaking down. I can think of the Act right now...but once I remember it Ill post it, and you guys can read up on it if you want. <edited><editID>svtf_srt4</editID><editDate>38006.744537037</editDate></edited>

Jan 21, 2004 | 03:33 AM

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I believe the name of the act is the Moss/Magnuson Act

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