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Old Aug 3, 2005 | 06:36 AM
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That is a KIT car w/ a turnkey price of no less then 38000 dollars. Or build it yourself on a 2 dr accord chassis for 16000 either way its one helluva design...being that its a kit car tho does leave room for your own selection of a chassis so......srt4 in that sounds very nice.... the kit is called the "attack" by euroworks LTD....
 
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Old Aug 3, 2005 | 04:35 PM
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Were do you think there salery comes from it's not the consumer buying the mag, its the ad space paid by the car companys.
you misunderstood my point. financial attachment because of the car (you have an attachment to your SRT, as do I, just as I have one to my Civic, or any car I am buying). I am suggesting that the writer does not have that emotional connection/financial connection to a specific car they are testing. Go to a car lot, test drive a Pontiac G6 - you don't have any connection to that car, so your opinions on the car are not based on what's coming out of your wallet. Does that make sense?
well actually!! i have to agree with you 110%, honestly i was into imports and HATED IT. They do lag in power and torque BUT if you really llok at it these imports go up to 200, 000 miles and are still going with only MINOR problems. (IE: timing belt, battery, alternator, tranny..etc.. not as much of engine problem) <-- I mean as in even at 200,000+ the car still performs ALMOST they same as it did at 100, 000 miles, just a little bit weaker due to mileage! I use to drive my moms 86 Camry, FREAKIN 1986, at 278, 000 when it finally broke down about 2 yrs ago! (see my point) . As when you look at domestics, i have never heard of one going past 150, 000 and have too much problems that you mine as well throw it away, or from what I have seen! Second, if you take a look at comfort, imports tend to dominate that as well. Look at the SRT-4, a majority of ppl HATE the interior! Using a car as a Daily Driver, you would want comfort and looks of an interior not performance! As stated SRT-4 did get a SUPEROIR review with performance and DID blow others away! So its not really BIAS! As said too, if you liked imports more, OBVIOUSLY your not gonna like the srt-4/domestics cars, and vise versa! Think about it!! Bias, NO, its reviews they take from US, the buyers and owners of the cars. I am sure that NONE of them drive these cars, but drive those Luxurious german cars. That you can count on!! Hey im moving on, to Domestics, and leaving Imports too! So I am not taking sides here, just from experience, reason again is that I want power, but if i want another DD (daily driver) i would stick with imports!

Just my 2 cents!!
 
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Old Aug 3, 2005 | 06:15 PM
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My mom had a 85 caviler that hit 200,000 mi before she sold it. My sister's camry had 89,000 mi and was sent to the dump, not kidding it was junked. I have found that the Import/Domestic stuff is very overreted I've seen both go forever and some that die fast. How you take care of your car is the biggest factor.
 
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Old Aug 3, 2005 | 06:33 PM
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How you take care of your car is the biggest factor.
a good point... one reason why imports tend to last longer - people tend to treat them better (not all, not all the time). plus, how many people have owned an older GM car for cheap?? and didn't take care of it?? I know I have... and I know I beat the crap out of them - hence, they didn't last like they could have I suppose.
 
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Old Aug 3, 2005 | 06:38 PM
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AMEN. Most automotive journalists are morons. Car and driver is the worst. The test five trucks and the wimpyest one takes first because it is "car like". IT"S A TRUCK YOU FREAKING MORONS!!!!! Test them like trucks.
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big power is what it's about when you're writing an article about sport compacts that is called "cheap speed"
 
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Old Aug 4, 2005 | 10:41 AM
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They couldn't possibly do that, because then you would have the American trucks in their top spots instead of the imports. This is more of exactly what I'm talking about, all of these magazines are biased.

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I understand fully what your saying and in the breakdown of their "points" system and the article it's plain to see that the SRT-4 ran away with everything when it came to performance, but the article is supose to be based on these selected cars performance and the results and their rankings of these cars should reflect that and not be swayed by 95 other things that have absolutely nothing to do with their performance. If this were an overall comparison and it had a title that stated it was simply an overall comparison (such as "$25,000 And Under Sport Compact Car Comparison" or "200 Horsepower And More, For $25,000 And Less"), then I wouldn't have a problem with the article or their rankings as to which is their pick as best and all. It's all in the wording and it's worded as being a performance comparison, in which case the ranking results would be completely different.

It's BS biased articles like these that have so many people brainwashed into believing that foreign/imported cars are far superior to our own American cars. I have yet to see a Japanese car that has gone as many trouble free miles than a '72 Polara wagon (I believe that's what it was, that or a Satellite wagon) I had seen running great after 450,000+ miles on the stock 400 big block V8. The car eventually was scrapped due to rusting away, but the engine went to live on in another car, I wish I knew if it is still running. And, my '88 Daytona Shelby Z had an odometer/speedometer that only worked about 1/2-1/3 of the time when I bought it and it had over 145,000 miles registered on the odometer at that time as well as still having the factory installed spark plugs in it and the original late '87 date coded Mopar plug wires (and it ran like new, I couldn't believe it when I seen it[]). It had just under 200,000 miles showing when an E clip that holds the wrist pins in broke causing the wrist pin to slide out a little grooving the cylinder wall badly. At this time it had around 250,000 actual miles and it ran perfect until then, at which point it still ran perfect but had a knocking sound and I drove it that way to the engine shop to have it rebuilt. It still runs to this day. I also know of an '88 Mustang GT convertible with many bolt ons that has the original internally untouched 5.0L with 360,000+ miles and still running strong (the owner attributes it's longevity to the use of Mobil 1 since new). I've seen thousands of cars from every manufacturer just about and they all have their good and bad, the only ones that stand out for being very problematic and break down all the time (with some exceptions) are Ford's and most all European cars. The Ford's are usually left littering the freeway burms and the European cars are always in the shop with the higher dollar versions having the most problems as well as costing the most to fix.
 
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Old Aug 5, 2005 | 06:19 PM
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I've seen thousands of cars from every manufacturer just about and they all have their good and bad, the only ones that stand out for being very problematic and break down all the time (with some exceptions) are Ford's and most all European cars. The Ford's are usually left littering the freeway burms and the European cars are always in the shop with the higher dollar versions having the most problems as well as costing the most to fix.
OK, i guess i havent seen enough just yet, but most of my friends do own domestic cars and do not beat on them, oil change every 2,500 miles with synthetic oil, new filter all the time. Still only lasted 150+k..but maybe im wrong but I guess you are right. It depends in the car, when it wants to die or when it wants to stay running! I am telling you man these ECU's on these cars, DO have a mind of thier own..EEEK! One day they might just start on thier own and run all of us over[8D] i take back my crap about comparing the two!!
 
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