valves that blow off
Captain
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From: LONG BEACH
RE: valves that blow off
no block off plate for the mopar... it sounds like you want that sort of sound but no worries and cheap... go with the FORGE bov.. my friend had one and it sounded good !! ( yes i said HAD ) he crashed it 
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From: Glendale, Arizona
RE: valves that blow off
ORIGINAL: shnormo
Also the MASF calculates the air before and after the turbo. With a BOV, the air that has been calculated is purged from the system causing the engine to run really really rich for the few moments the BOV is open. A little damage could be resulting. Block off plates would greatly reduce it, but no matter what, it is registering the air and it isn't there. Your O2 sensors would suffer too.
Also the MASF calculates the air before and after the turbo. With a BOV, the air that has been calculated is purged from the system causing the engine to run really really rich for the few moments the BOV is open. A little damage could be resulting. Block off plates would greatly reduce it, but no matter what, it is registering the air and it isn't there. Your O2 sensors would suffer too.
As for the BOV, how loud do you want it to be. The TurboXS RFL (Really Freakin' Loud) is the loudest that I've heard. I use the Raptor BOV, which can hold higher boost pressures and isn't too noisy. In fact I plan on re-routing the "blow off" back into my new airbox. Between that and the missing intercooler, I might just dupe people into thinking that I have an SRT-Design package Neon SXT
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RE: valves that blow off
ORIGINAL: MChat
The SRT-4 doesn't have a Mass Air Flow Sensor; the ECU relies soley on the Manifold Absolute Pressure sensor to determine air flow.
As for the BOV, how loud do you want it to be. The TurboXS RFL (Really Freakin' Loud) is the loudest that I've heard. I use the Raptor BOV, which can hold higher boost pressures and isn't too noisy. In fact I plan on re-routing the "blow off" back into my new airbox. Between that and the missing intercooler, I might just dupe people into thinking that I have an SRT-Design package Neon SXT
ORIGINAL: shnormo
Also the MASF calculates the air before and after the turbo. With a BOV, the air that has been calculated is purged from the system causing the engine to run really really rich for the few moments the BOV is open. A little damage could be resulting. Block off plates would greatly reduce it, but no matter what, it is registering the air and it isn't there. Your O2 sensors would suffer too.
Also the MASF calculates the air before and after the turbo. With a BOV, the air that has been calculated is purged from the system causing the engine to run really really rich for the few moments the BOV is open. A little damage could be resulting. Block off plates would greatly reduce it, but no matter what, it is registering the air and it isn't there. Your O2 sensors would suffer too.
As for the BOV, how loud do you want it to be. The TurboXS RFL (Really Freakin' Loud) is the loudest that I've heard. I use the Raptor BOV, which can hold higher boost pressures and isn't too noisy. In fact I plan on re-routing the "blow off" back into my new airbox. Between that and the missing intercooler, I might just dupe people into thinking that I have an SRT-Design package Neon SXT
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RE: valves that blow off
ORIGINAL: whoosh
What happened to your IC?
ORIGINAL: MChat
The SRT-4 doesn't have a Mass Air Flow Sensor; the ECU relies soley on the Manifold Absolute Pressure sensor to determine air flow.
As for the BOV, how loud do you want it to be. The TurboXS RFL (Really Freakin' Loud) is the loudest that I've heard. I use the Raptor BOV, which can hold higher boost pressures and isn't too noisy. In fact I plan on re-routing the "blow off" back into my new airbox. Between that and the missing intercooler, I might just dupe people into thinking that I have an SRT-Design package Neon SXT
ORIGINAL: shnormo
Also the MASF calculates the air before and after the turbo. With a BOV, the air that has been calculated is purged from the system causing the engine to run really really rich for the few moments the BOV is open. A little damage could be resulting. Block off plates would greatly reduce it, but no matter what, it is registering the air and it isn't there. Your O2 sensors would suffer too.
Also the MASF calculates the air before and after the turbo. With a BOV, the air that has been calculated is purged from the system causing the engine to run really really rich for the few moments the BOV is open. A little damage could be resulting. Block off plates would greatly reduce it, but no matter what, it is registering the air and it isn't there. Your O2 sensors would suffer too.
As for the BOV, how loud do you want it to be. The TurboXS RFL (Really Freakin' Loud) is the loudest that I've heard. I use the Raptor BOV, which can hold higher boost pressures and isn't too noisy. In fact I plan on re-routing the "blow off" back into my new airbox. Between that and the missing intercooler, I might just dupe people into thinking that I have an SRT-Design package Neon SXT
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RE: valves that blow off
I have heard people running superchargers and using an aftercooler. Just like an intercooler, but made for supercharged use. Some have a way of stuffing them full of ice or a stand alone cooling system. The SVT lightning uses an aftercooler, and is cooled by engine coolant.
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From: Glendale, Arizona
RE: valves that blow off
I'm having a custom Water to Air aftercooler made. It'll use a separate "radiator" that sits up where the intercooler used to be, a water tank that will likely be where the windshield washer tank was, a pump and a air to water heat exchanger which will be significantly more efficient than a large FMIC. Pressure drop should be almost non-existant.
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RE: valves that blow off
ORIGINAL: MChat
I'm having a custom Water to Air aftercooler made. It'll use a separate "radiator" that sits up where the intercooler used to be, a water tank that will likely be where the windshield washer tank was, a pump and a air to water heat exchanger which will be significantly more efficient than a large FMIC. Pressure drop should be almost non-existant.
I'm having a custom Water to Air aftercooler made. It'll use a separate "radiator" that sits up where the intercooler used to be, a water tank that will likely be where the windshield washer tank was, a pump and a air to water heat exchanger which will be significantly more efficient than a large FMIC. Pressure drop should be almost non-existant.
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From: Glendale, Arizona
RE: valves that blow off
ORIGINAL: American__Muscle
There's gotta be a reason everyone hasn't converted over then... $$$?
ORIGINAL: MChat
I'm having a custom Water to Air aftercooler made. It'll use a separate "radiator" that sits up where the intercooler used to be, a water tank that will likely be where the windshield washer tank was, a pump and a air to water heat exchanger which will be significantly more efficient than a large FMIC. Pressure drop should be almost non-existant.
I'm having a custom Water to Air aftercooler made. It'll use a separate "radiator" that sits up where the intercooler used to be, a water tank that will likely be where the windshield washer tank was, a pump and a air to water heat exchanger which will be significantly more efficient than a large FMIC. Pressure drop should be almost non-existant.
MetalMan might be able to come up with a "kit" after he does mine. But it's still probably going to cost around $1200-1400. The kit would include new pressure pipes from the turbo to the after cooler and from the aftercooler to the throttle body, plus all of the components of the water to air system (Radiator, heat exchanger, plumbing, tank, pump, wiring, etc...)
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RE: valves that blow off
You guys know whats funny? I dont understand something.Every one i know along with me says to use a block off plate.But for some reason if you guys go to E.D web site they say not to use one. LOL LOL Im sorry but why the hell would you have 2 places where the air comes out of.hehehe LOLOL I never understood why he said that,but he does on his web page.Me on the other hand used a block off plate and i have never had any problems with it.