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Old Jan 6, 2004 | 04:32 AM
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3 inch exhaust all the way(with or without cat its up to you and the law), 3 inch intake pipe, good cai,(K&amp;N) not one that puts the filter by the tranny, recommend the Greedy E-01 multi tasker(works fine in mine) and either the Walbro fuel pump(fits in the stock location)or your own brand and a good fuel pressure regulator that can hold a steady 70psi at idle or 6000rpm's. Also install Accel 36 pounds per hour fuel injectors, you will need them.Larger intercooler a must also a intercooler chiller, you pick the brand there all the same. A good pressure pipe 3 inch or larger and a good BOV, this is its own topic i'm not getting into. recommend MSD red coil and wires and NKG plugs(they fire hotter).Your going to need to replace the cams as well, find something for turbo motors in 9.00/8.00mm lift 250/250 degree duration.Your going to need adjustable cam gears to get there, there are some good brands out there, like Fidanza. I also would replace the connecting rods with eagle or RPM rods(or what ever floats your boat), also JE or another brand of turbo pistons with around 9.2:1 compression, don't go over or you will blow the head off, with the gasket. You have to take the head off and take it to a good trusted machine shop and have the exhaust valves inlarged and a good port/flow job done to it, i would use Indycylinder head stainless steel valves and valve springs,also take the exhaust/turbo/intake pieces with you so they can match them up, dodge did a so an so job, but its not by no means perfect(and install all new gaskets). You will notice that the #4 intake runner is a dead restriction if you take the intake off and look thru it. Have it ported to match the rest of the runners. This also makes for less air flow to the #4 intakerunner(It evens it out with the other three). The next order of business is to have themtrue upthe turbo houseing to the exhaust manifold, there is a lot of hp gains here. Matter of fact the head work will account for 2/3 of all your hp gains. Don't take any short cuts here do it right or don't do it at all. Think of a stright line. That's how you want the air to enter and leave the engine, with as close to no restrictions as you can get. On the turbo a good wastegate actuator is a must, AGP, MPx, etc. Are all good brands. Your also going to need a new flywheel and clutch. Recommend Clutchmasters FX400 stage 4 clutch and pressure plate(upgrade one over if you plan on 600whp in the future, trust me)With it all bolted up and ready toroll over i would set the cam gears two degrees retarded, this will stop low rpm engine knock and deliver high rpm power.As far as setting boost i would aim for 21psi. This seems to be the magic number the 2.4 likes, this is of course with 108 octane race fuel, if street/pump gas i would not go over 17psi on super unleaded93 octane. This will net you about 370whp on race gas and with out nitrous. And if you want to run nitrous i recommend a nitrous express system, with the injectors installed in the intake runners just under the fuel injectors, and start off with 35hp injectors, you go crazy here and drop in the 150hp injectors you'll blow the motor. This will have to be custom done of course, personally i would stay away from nitrous in the engine and get a bigger turbo, like with the stage 3 mopar kit. Well your looking around 4 grand with parts and labor. Good luck with it.</P>


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Old Jan 6, 2004 | 05:48 AM
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just get the new turbo upgrade kit, from psi-fi or agp turbo. throw some more fuel with that with a new intake and exhaust

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Old Jan 8, 2004 | 07:13 PM
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It amazes me to hear some of the hp being thrown around here. Honestly, how many of you have driven a car with 400 whp. That little dodge I presume is quite light; also being fwd, the problem of traction and steering is paramount. I have a 600whp+ Supra, and in the wrong hands or inexperienced hands it is a death trap!!! I have to run 295 drags to have any chance of hooking in lower gears. </P>


I truly hope most members are experienced drivers or I would suggest starting at a much lower hp and gain some experience.</P>


I like the car; I'm looking at one for my brother, but lets be a little realistic concerning street cars. Remember, there is a difference between a "Street Legal" car and a "Streetable" car.</P>
 
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Old Jan 9, 2004 | 06:56 AM
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You sir, are correct. I myself drive my dads 630+ hp('68 426 Hemi) '74 Barracuda on the weekends in the summer and it is "streetable". Alot of the numbers your talking about include a good dose of nitrous which makes the difference. You'll hear some talk of having 400-600 hp, but usually 100+ hp of it is nitrous, so it's not all the time power.

Driving a car with 600+ N/A hp is even alot trickier than a turbo/supercharged 600+ hp car, at least with a turbo/supercharged car the take off from a light on the street is much easier.
 
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Old Jan 9, 2004 | 08:37 PM
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I hope the little Dodge makes it. I do not have a lot of confidence in it due to its category. It doesn't make a lot of noise in the import magezines for the obvious reason, and most of the domestic motorheads believe in nothing but cubic inches. The thought that comes to mind is the Grand National!! That was a great car for its time or now for that matter, but it had a short life. </P>


I love turbo cars, hence my Supra, and turbos are making a big comeback, albiet it in 4 cylinder fwd cars. This is obviously due to pricing. My concern is the Jap cars will dominate the market, and the Dodge will fade. If GM of Ford also produced a turbo car, it might help change the mindset now buying imports.</P>
 
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Old Jan 10, 2004 | 03:19 AM
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The SRT-4 is a limited production car like the Prowler was, so it will not be around for much longer anyway. The whole import craze is just a fad/popularity thing just like the Nike Air Jordans, Oakleys, bell bottoms, Anime, the retarded tiny wheels that stick out 6 feet from the car, etc. and that is why it will not change their mindset, at least not right now. I see the whole sport compact/import trend fading away soon.

Chrysler always seems to be ahead of everyone else, which actually hurts them. Through out the '80's Chrysler had almost nothing but turbo cars, but back then they weren't that popular and now they are. They started the mini van craze and the FWD econo-box, and everyone else followed in their footsteps. When the Ram was restyled in the early '90's wasn't it odd how the F series and the Chevy full size trucks changed and looked an awful lot like the Ram. The most recent cloning of a Chrysler is with the new Chevys, the restyled Vettes seem to have Viper-like headlights and reverse scoops on the sides and they have a wagon/SUV kinda like the Pacifica. I can't wait to see what gets copied next.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2004 | 06:44 AM
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Import modifying isn't just going to go away lke you said. Correct me if I'm wrong, but you ARE modifying a car from 3 decades ago. As long as these cars are produced and parts are produced along side the world of import modding will exist. It's been around for years and its a multi million dollar business world wide. It spans into cinema, television, music and of course the youth market. Saying the import scene is going to fade away is like saying people are going to stop listening to music, it just won't happen as long as the building blocks are present. As for making 400whp in the Srt-4, it should be a walk in the park. The motor the resides in that engine bay is 87mm by 100mm, almost the same measurements as the mitsubishi stroker motor for 4g63. (the block is the same as the 2.0 just bored and stroked usually with a 2.4 SOHC crank from a spyder) The stock comprssion is 8.1:1 and should be a number you try to stay close to. Above that you run into alot of tuning issues and believe me turning up the boost is alot cheaper than 5 hours of dyno time trying to fix knock. The head of the car shouldn't have to be modified to reach the numbers you are looking for, granted it will give the car loads of top end and will be a blast on the freeway. Realisticly a set of 680cc injectors, a fuel controller of some sort, a 50trim turbo with log manifold you should be able to reach the number without a problem (with supporting mods exhaust, d,p etc.) Best of luck with everything, good choice with EIP those guys are amazing </P>
 
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Old Jan 10, 2004 | 09:48 AM
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What I meant by saying, "I see the whole sport compact/import trend fading away soon.", is that just like the muscle car era ended a few decades ago, so will this. I never said, or even thought, that all the cars, people, parts and events for the sport compact/import scene would end, just that it will fade out of being the big and highly popular thing to do(it's overwhelming popularity is why there are ricers). Making slow cars fast and fast cars even faster will never stop and the people, such as myself, will always be out there doing just that. <img border="0" src=smileys/smiley4.gif border="0"> <img border="0" src=smileys/smiley2.gif border="0">
 
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Old Jan 10, 2004 | 08:30 PM
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Sounds good, I 've just heard alot of people trying to say that it was going to completely fade away, the intire scene of modding cars. Hopefully in 40 years I'll be able to buy a greddy turbo kit for my spaceship.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2004 | 02:44 AM
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as far as a quick 400 hp mopar is coming out with a kit that give 300hp so adding 100 more should not be a prob at all.
 
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