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Old Sep 2, 2004 | 03:57 AM
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My friend with a Suby has a Blitz turbo timer. I can't remember which one it is, but I helped them install part of it. I keep forgetting when they come over that they have one because I always look out and think "wtf, they left their car on". LOL.
 
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Old Sep 2, 2004 | 09:38 AM
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though I usually agree with PSI Chick, I have to disagree with her on her comments on the catch can... I paid $21 something for all the parts for my "home-made" catch can (as did many other forums goers). I have not seen the "real" catch cans, but I don't think they can be made any easier than unscrewing the reservoir, emptying the "oil" and then screwing back on. I pride myself on making mine look "stock"... but it's all personal preference. If you have the money or have zero mechanical inclination, buy one... otherwise building one is very simple and a lot cheaper (and if you do it right can look factory).

I'm of the opinion that the turbo timer really isn't necessary. It would be a nice feature to have if you have money to spend, but the owners manual suggests a three-four minute cool down period for the oil/turbo. If DCX can beat the crap out of these cars and only recommends this for a cool down, then it's good enough for me! If you're like me, either you don't drive your car that hard to begin with, or if you are in that big of a hurry and can't wait the 3 minutes, well... you have deeper personal problems with life and should seek counseling
 
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Old Sep 2, 2004 | 03:56 PM
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i don't recommend the $20 catch can, as it's not nearly as effective as the "real" ones that you can get. it's best explained by dale seeley....

"The $20 catchcans that I speak of as being useless are the filters meant to seperate(sp?) water and small amounts of oil, or oil and small amounts of water from a compressed air source. The people who bought the oil version are a lot better off than the people who are using the 'dryer' version, but even so I've only run across one person diligent enough to drain the bowl every couple days. They become very useless once they get that first tablespoon of oil captured and then start passing pre-condensed oil into the intake manifold, just north of the gummy IAC. I also believe even the diligent people are still using a catchcan that is not as good as one that sits well below the level of the intake manifold (unless they are of course) and has some capacity for storage.

Either way, they only way it could be less desirable than having no catchcan at all is if the pre-condensed oil that is draining into the intake manifold creates more of a problem than introducing oil vapors that can be ingested by the engine easier." (quoted from srtforums.com).

dale always explains things very well, and this is no exception. i know people that have the $20 cc on their cars...and it's true that if they aren't diligent in emptying the filter it does nothing. they take off their pipes from the ic, and they're full of oil. i've been using the greddy for a while now, and when i removed my pipes to change them for the exhaust depot ones, there was virtually no oil in them. thus, i'm a believer in the larger, so-called "real" catch cans, as they just seem to work a lot better.
 
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Old Sep 2, 2004 | 04:01 PM
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I am sorry, this will sound rude & isn't intended to be, but...

who is Dan Seeley and why should i listen to him? is he an engineer for DCX (which he may be, that is why I ask)? I am not trying to sound snotty or rude... and if he is an engineer, I would like to get more information from him (since I have an engineering degree, we can talk "nerd" to each other about filtration units and microparticles )

my guess, is the only difference between the two filters ("real" and "homemade" is the filter, there isn't that much science behind these things...) is the actual filter used and cost...
 
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Old Sep 2, 2004 | 04:27 PM
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dale seeley is...well...he's dale.

he's the brains behind lake effect racing. he's the one that drove an srt-4 in this years cannonball one lap of america. he placed first in the economy class and 20th overall (even after hitting a dear in utah and destroying the front end). he speaks with ethan from pvo on a regular basis, and is a main source of info from them getting to us. he has done a lot of work taking these cars apart and seeing how they work, and thus helping all of us out by finding the faults and good points of the car so that parts companies know what we need and what we don't. he is a endless source of info about this car, and he knows more about it than anyone outside pvo. he has a lot of information that we don't, and he is nice enough to pass that information along to the rest of us. he found a possible fix for the hard start issue recently, and has helped people with everything from installing coilovers and where to properly drill the exhaust manifold for placement of an egt sensor, to how to install the mopar bov.

i honestly don't know if dale is an engineer, i've never asked him. i know that he's a gear head, and none of the info that he's ever given to anyone has been anything but the truth as he finds it. if you want, call him up and ask him yourself. he's a very nice guy and i'm sure that he'll be willing to talk shop with you if you'd like. but also understand that dale is not one to say that he knows everything, and what he tells us is kind of a "at your own risk" deal because of the legal issues that pvo has had with posting info on the boards. he won't argue a point with you if you think he's wrong, he'll (as he likes to put it) accept your ignorance and move on with his life. he's a very interesting guy, and a strange one, but very smart. do a search for his name on srtforums and you'll see what he has contributed to us as srt owners (although there's a lot that's not on there that he's done for us as well).

here's a link to the thread where he discusses the $20 cc and it's issues, although it's not the first time this was brought up, and wasn't the point of the thread in the first place...

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Old Sep 2, 2004 | 04:51 PM
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PSI Chick. Where did you mount the greddy can. I see on modern performance that they mounted it way down below and there car is modified. I would like one and am torn between a homemade one and a 20 dollar one. Is the greddy really easy to install. Would it still fit below the air box or whatever the huge black thing on the driver side is.
 
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Old Sep 2, 2004 | 04:57 PM
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thank you for the info PSI CHICK

I never wish to be rude or such, but I am a strong doubter on things and like clarification (remember, I am an engineer, so I am stubborn and require proof on things).

Thank you for being polite in your response and explaining things. I will have to try and contact Dan to get more information. Upon a very recent convo. with a fellow engineer here where i work (yes, I should be working and not talking about cars ) we are still of the assumption that the "$20 catch can" is an effective unit. After finding info. on the Greddy it appears very similar to the setup I am using... differences may include the filtration (which can affect the system greatly) and the air flow (again which can affect)... both of these differences are hard to examine without having the catch cans in front of you, and I do not have an answer as of yet on any differences.

You have me curious now

by the way, I found this for anyone interested, these should work for making your own catch cans:
http://www.mcmaster.com/

if you type in "filters" at the search and scroll down to "oil filters" you will find many different ones that should work.

now back to your regularly sched. thread hehe...
 
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Old Sep 2, 2004 | 05:46 PM
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srt_ya - i would be interested to know what you two would come up with when dicsussing the catch can issue. you both seem to be a source of good knowledge, and two brains are always better than one! and just so that you don't make a mistake if you do call him, his name is dale, not dan

lrl1990 - i have my greddy mounted in much the same place as you see on moderns site. if you have basically any aftermarket cai you can mount it there. if you have the stock air box still in, you can mount it on the firewall next to the overflow tank and run the lines directly off the pcv valve. just make sure that the catch can is mounted below the engine, as this is more effective for trapping oil. oh, and the homemade catch can and the $20 one are the same thing...the greddy is significantly more expensive, i found mine on ebay for about $70. i also have the older style greddy cc, the square one, not the round one that they have now.

i have attached a pic so that you can see where mine is, you can see it on the lower right hand side of the picture.

[IMG]local://upfiles/3729/CE304494D98743AFBFF8CDE1C7A37212.jpg[/IMG]
 
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Old Sep 3, 2004 | 02:04 PM
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how hard is it ot instal the TT
 
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Old Sep 3, 2004 | 03:57 PM
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took about 20 minutes to install the blitz....
 
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