Yeah, and this is coming from the manufacture that is already having enough trouble with a single turbo in their diesel. If Ford wants to make things worse for themselves by doing something silly like this for more bragging rights, then I say bring it on. As Drew has mentioned in other posts. The Cummins has been used in boats, where it produced 425 hp and 910 ft-lbs of torque and the only difference is the injectors, turbo, and fuel pump were changed, so I believe the Cummins just might be okay against this. The Cummins would not loose its reliability.

BTW, wasn't the 6.5 and 6.2 made by Detroit Diesel? I have heard the new H1s will have the "Duramax."

 

nope, the 6.2 and 6.5L Chevy diesels were made by GM. the early 6.2's were only 350's with diesel heads. BIG mistake. the 6.5 is only a bored out 6.2.

 

So in other words GM has never really had a good Diesel in terms of quality in comparison to the Cummins. Which one is better quality between the 6.2/6.5 and the Duramax?

 

Ford definatly does have trouble with one turbo. But i say put in the "B" engine, or put a twin turbo on the 5.9L. And i also agree that it is a fact that the inline 6 is the ideal diesel. I am a pilot and that is tought that you get the best torque from an inline engine. It is basic physics. It doesnt nesisarily matter how many cylinders. heres my points below:





Dodge 5.9L Cummins ( Inline 6 Diesel ) = 325 HP , 610FtLbTq 6CYLINDERS!!!!!
Ford Power Stroke 6.0 L( best one , and still pathetic ) ( V8 Diesel ) = 325 HP , 580FtLbTq V8
Chevy Duramax Diesel 6.6L ( V8 Diesel ) = 325HP , 600FtLbTq V8



My Point Exactly!

 

I also remember that the inline 6 is the best perfectly balanced engine where you do not need all those extra counter weights to make the engine operate smoothly.

 

I've been looking into buying a Ford Diesel this December, ONLY because the Dodge is almost double to insure vs. Ford and Chevy. IMHO, if Ford really wanted to attempt to take on Cummins, they need to consider just dumping the PowerStroke and commission Caterpillar or Detroit Diesel to build a diesel for the Fords. Otherwise, Cummins will continue beating all comers with ugly sticks!!

 

I don't see how Ford could possibly get a diesel from Detroit Diesel when the situation is Diamler Chrysler owns Detroit Diesel now. I'm thinking there must be a reason why Ford didn't try to get a Caterpiller engine a long time ago. Don't count on it is all I have to say. They seem content with having a diesel that is truely from the bottom of the barrel of diesels.

 

Shows how much I know about Corporate Takeovers!!! Didn't know Detroit Diesel is now owned by DC. Hehehehe, guess that limits the options for Ford now, huh?

 

Just looking for more info on the 6.4L ford configuration. I had a Ford fan that I work with telling me that the new engine was going to be a V-4. I personnally think his statement is bogus. Could you just imagine the banging and clattering a V-4 would create. Also just imagine the size of those pistons! Cummins are huge right now.

When run CAT diesel in our equipment at the coal mine I work at. CAT makes great "large" diesels, but any small diesel they just can't seem to get it right. For small diesels, Cummins, Detriot, and John Deere all make really good engines.

 

basically how i understand it is that the cummings 5.9 straight 6 has always been a diesel motor.

ford and chevy, with their v8 diesels are pos because they have both had to modify their gas engines to be diesel compatitable.