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Old 03-10-2011, 08:57 PM
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Hey rebuilding my 2.0 on 99 neon DOHC! I wasnt wanting to spend anymore money than needed,but i would like tips on things i should do to improve the engines performance a little more! Like I said nothing to big just a little more performance increase, I dont want to get into to much money! Thanks Rmitch47
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Old 03-10-2011, 09:49 PM
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Don't rebuild it, it'll cost you more money for just a basic overhaul kit than you can imagine. it's cheaper to just get a good used replacement engine or even a better car.
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Old 03-10-2011, 10:32 PM
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Don't rebuild it, it'll cost you more money for just a basic overhaul kit than you can imagine. it's cheaper to just get a good used replacement engine or even a better car.
I dont understand? Why not rebuild it? A used engine can cost as much and plus I dont know what im getting when i buy a used engine! Is there something i need to know here, please explain! here is a basic kit for 160.00 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...em=#vi-content

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Old 03-10-2011, 10:41 PM
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A rebuild involves boring the cylinders, new pistons, new rings, polish or regrind crank, new rod bearins, new main bearings, gasket set, head work, valve job.

in total, even if you assemble the engine yourself, the cost of a complete a proper rebuild will definitely exceed the value of the car.
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A rebuild involves boring the cylinders, new pistons, new rings, polish or regrind crank, new rod bearins, new main bearings, gasket set, head work, valve job.

in total, even if you assemble the engine yourself, the cost of a complete a proper rebuild will definitely exceed the value of the car.
Well the cylinders walls dont have ridges, it has 150000mi on it! dont know why i would need pistons, the pistons in it are in good shape(no spread), the crank probably needs reground, the kit i showed at ebay has all the bearings and gaskets for 160.00.
Here is total i get >
dont know if i can vat the head may have to clean by hand! if I can vat 30.00
engine heads and parts vated 35.00
shaved needed 25.00
Kit above 160.00
turn crank 50.00
oil pump 50.00
oil and filter 20.00
antifreeze 20.00
Valves all look good no sign on burn.
I just put new water pump and belt in it because it was overheating so i will prob reuse!

total 390.00 unless u can think of something i forgot.

This is a 1999 dodge sport 3 speed auto sunroof all power
the worst value is $1100 and good cond is value at $1900
If you can think of anything else I may have forgot please tell me because i do want it to be worth it! thanks

PS i thought these motor where throw away motors because they cant be bored? Is this true?

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Old 03-11-2011, 06:31 PM
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I build a lot of engines and I don't know of one shop that only charges
$50 for regrinding a crank. I'd like to know what shop that is cuz I'll send them every crank I got even with shipping the $50 grind fee would save me quite a bit.

I'm not a big fan of the Neon powder rod, you'd want to have them checked to ensure they are round on the rod bores.

I've never seen a 150,000 mile engine with ZERO ridge.

How about a new timing belt?

How about a valve job?

You'll need to have the cylinderwalls de-glazed/honed. I don't see that in your price structure.
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Old 03-13-2011, 05:36 PM
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well the crank ground will be 75 instead of 50! but looks like it dosent have a bad bearing. it has a blown head gasket! I think after talking with u about this engine Im going to just replace the gasket and sell it! I didnt relize it had powder coated rods! I did relaced the timing belt when i replaced waterpump! Im guessing i have some bad lifters, because of the noise it was making! I got to find out which one to replace! Damn its ashame this engine isnt worth overhauling because its damn good on gas! Antway thanks for the advice, rmitch

BTW how many mile can a person usually get out on these engine before they break down completely(is there any average)? Im use to getting 200k + out of other 4cyl engine because i keep the oil changed, but this is the second head gasket im having to change is less than 30k miles on this car! How concerned should i be about those rods?

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hey just talk to a guy who has a 2.4l out of a 98 cirrus w/160k for $250! It runs but prob going to need rebuilt soon! What I was wondering, will that engine fit in my neon? I got the 3 speed autotrans, what mods would i need to do to get it to fit if possible? thanks man I hope this engine will fit because i hate to pass up this deal!
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I have a 2.4 PT engine in a 1998 neon. it was A LOT of work to get it functioning properly!!

Average trouble free miles before breakdown ranges from 20,000 to 400,000 miles
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Yeah I was wondering if most of the wiring in my neon will connect? Also what about the computer, will it have to be changed? Is there a guide somewhere tell how to make the changew over because i dont want to get into to much money! Thanks man for ur help, rmitch

UPDATE >>> Sorry i just found the thread on swapping engines! But i still have some questions! The thread says use 2.0 pcm and wire harness and just do some pin rearranging! they're is very little 2.4 things need for this swap, http://dodgeforum.com/forum/1st-gen-...ake-a-nap.html Since you done this can u tell me if thats correct on all the 2.4l part needed or is there alot more to it than that? if so can u tell me what else i may need? Thanks again rmitchj

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