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Old 09-15-2014, 11:55 PM
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I just got a 96 dodge ram 1500 with a 5.9l V8 4x2 the transmission was swaped with a rebuilt transmission by the previous owner do to no overdrive in the old transmission. I also have the old transmission. Both transmissions are the same except the new one dont have the vss in the tail shaft not even a hole for it. From what i am reading this is a from a newer truck like a 98 or 99. now here is the issue i have no speedometer. There is a wire under the truck for the vss in the til shaft. The transmission shift fine this is the only issue. thwe old one has a vss in the tail how do i fix this. so i can get the speedo back. can i just swap a computer from a 98 with the same motor and tranny.
 
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I dont have this hole on my new tranny but it is on the old one. i do have the wire.

I guess my questions are what can i do to get my speedo working and is there any predicted problems without this sensor? i still have the output sensor on the trany just not this one.
 

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Indeed newer trucks have the vss in the rear axle.

I always thought the speed sensor was I'm the t case on the older trucks.

Edit: this is a 2wd duh

There were quite a lot of changes to harnesses and the dash and computer systems when they updated the trucks.
 
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You can't just swap in a 98+ computer, too much changed. You *might* be able to swap the tailshaft housing, but, I am going to wager that the trans output shaft won't have the gear for the VSS either. I suspect, that the only *real* way to fix it, would be to replace the trans with one from a 96-97 model year truck, or, get the original rebuilt, and install it.
 
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So if you have a 46re visa the vss tailshaft - do you still need to mate it with a 5.9 engine, harness, and computer from a 96 or 97?
Or can you use a newer 5.9 engine, harness, and computer as long as you have the vss tailshft feature on the 46re?

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Looks like the tail housing in the picture is from an RH transmission 1990 to 1992. They had a speedo gear. What you need to do is replace just the tail housing with the correct one. And also get a get a output sensor for the tail housing. You will need to switch the direct clutches to the new housing. You don't need to remove the transmission to make these repairs.
 
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So if you have a 46re visa the vss tailshaft - do you still need to mate it with a 5.9 engine, harness, and computer from a 96 or 97?
Or can you use a newer 5.9 engine, harness, and computer as long as you have the vss tailshft feature on the 46re?

Thanks!!
No, the 98 and up PCM/wiring harness doesn't use the VSS, at all. The 98 and up instrument cluster also gets its information on what to display completely differently than the 96-97 models. (96-97 works pretty much the same way as the 94-95 does....) So, unless you want to change out the entire dash as well, stick with the 96-97 OBDII stuff.
 



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