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Old 01-05-2014, 10:57 PM
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Some of yall might have thought that i might have died, well, no. I got married about a year ago. And the wife and I have had a LOT on our plate. Biggest of all is that in April, I am gonna be a daddy!!!

Now on to the truck questions:

1. Is it possible to install the factory remote start in a viehicle that doesnt have one yet? IF so, Im gonna bet that it is a $250 to $500 option that only the dealer can install???

2. when replacing the front struts, do i need to replace my Strut mounting Kit? if so, not a problem, just wondering.

3. How does one tap into the power lock system? I am wanting to add my toolbox onto the driver door system. I am guessing that it is not as simple as cut and splice new wire into existing wire.

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Old 01-05-2014, 11:55 PM
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Back when I looked into this for my wife's 2012 Compass, the factory kit was $200-$250 the cheapest I could find it (complete with two new remote start keys/FOBs), and the install was about $400-$500 at the $tealership. I am assuming our trucks would be similar-ish.
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Well first off Congratulations!!! My son is about to be 4 months! It is a Blessings!!!


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1. Is it possible to install the factory remote start in a viehicle that doesnt have one yet? IF so, Im gonna bet that it is a $250 to $500 option that only the dealer can install???
1. Like mentioned above, factory is going to be expensive, and if your willing to spend anywhere around $300 or more, might as well get a Good Alarm System. I would recommend a Clifford Alarm. I've had one of their alarms in 6 of my vehicles and never had any problems and love the extra features.
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2. when replacing the front struts, do i need to replace my Strut mounting Kit? if so, not a problem, just wondering.
2. When I replaced my struts w/ Ranchos, I replaced them as well, they were really worn down. Do a good inspection of your ball joints and tie rods while down there!
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3. How does one tap into the power lock system? I am wanting to add my toolbox onto the driver door system. I am guessing that it is not as simple as cut and splice new wire into existing wire.
3. I have aftermarket actuators for my doors, so it is that simple, just tapping into the wire. I'm sure a stock Dakota is the same, all you would have to do is take off the door panel and find the live wire. so get a volt meter/tester from a auto store, shouldn't be no more than $10. You just tap into the wire and enable your locks, which ever wire is live, well tap into that one. That wire would than go to the positive of your actuator for your tool box.
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Old 01-06-2014, 10:05 PM
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I was curious about this myself a few days back and ended up ordering a setup from Fortin Electronics called the EVO-ALL and a T-harness. This is supposed to be a fully plug and play system and will enable remote start using the factory key fob. Best of all it was only $100 shipped from eBay and I should have it Wednesday. I'll let you know how it goes.

https://ifar.ca/en/products/evo-series/evo-all/

Here is a video of the install on a Jeep and it is supposed to be the same for pretty much all Dodge/Chrysler vehicles from about 2004 to now.

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Don't have any insight into your problem, but welcome back and congratulations!
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I was curious about this myself a few days back and ended up ordering a setup from Fortin Electronics called the EVO-ALL and a T-harness. This is supposed to be a fully plug and play system and will enable remote start using the factory key fob. Best of all it was only $100 shipped from eBay and I should have it Wednesday. I'll let you know how it goes.

https://ifar.ca/en/products/evo-series/evo-all/

Here is a video of the install on a Jeep and it is supposed to be the same for pretty much all Dodge/Chrysler vehicles from about 2004 to now.

2008 Grand Cherokee Fortin EVO CHR4 Install - YouTube

Looks simple enough and no splicing, id love to get it, but I dont have factory keyfobs or electric locks, saddly (just chip keys)
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Old 01-09-2014, 09:28 PM
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Well I received the kit yesterday and got around to installing it this evening. It really was as easy as the video put it. From opening the door to finish was about 15 minutes. Install was basically:

1) Remove lower cover from steering column
2) Unplug harness from ignition switch
3) Connect t-harness from EVO-ALL to ignition switch, connect original ignition switch harness to other end of t-harness.
4) Connect t-harness to EVO-ALL per instructions while holding the button and perform the key sequence.
5) Secure the EVO-ALL using some double sided sticky tape somewhere under the dash and put back the lower column cover.

Enjoy remote start....
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Old 01-10-2014, 08:40 AM
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i'm confused (not an unusual condition).

Your post implies that this is a remote start kit.

My understanding is that this is just a "patch" to allow you to use an aftermarket remote start in your vehicle without having to mess with the wiring, to make it plug-and-play (nothing wrong with that, btw).

Please enlighten me.

(my wife has a Volvo and wants remote start, I said from my research that it was next to impossible, this would make it work)
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i'm confused (not an unusual condition).

Your post implies that this is a remote start kit.

My understanding is that this is just a "patch" to allow you to use an aftermarket remote start in your vehicle without having to mess with the wiring, to make it plug-and-play (nothing wrong with that, btw).

Please enlighten me.

(my wife has a Volvo and wants remote start, I said from my research that it was next to impossible, this would make it work)
In my install this is an actual remote start module. It is not a patch or interface to any other device. The module from Fortin connects inline between the factory ignition switch harness and the actual ignition switch and is the only item used. I use my factory keyfob to start it. Pressing the brake pedal or doing anythnig other than putting the key in while it is running on remote start will shut it back down just like the factory system.

The Fortin devices apparently CAN interface with other alarm systems for additional functionality. Apparently there is an option to plug in another brand remote start to take advantage of their long range transmitters. Worked well for me this morning. Got into a toasty warm truck to take the kids to school.

I think Chrysler/Dodge are about the only plug and play system they have. Other makes would require a bit more cut and splicing in the wiring.
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In my install this is an actual remote start module. It is not a patch or interface to any other device. The module from Fortin connects inline between the factory ignition switch harness and the actual ignition switch and is the only item used. I use my factory keyfob to start it. Pressing the brake pedal or doing anythnig other than putting the key in while it is running on remote start will shut it back down just like the factory system.

The Fortin devices apparently CAN interface with other alarm systems for additional functionality. Apparently there is an option to plug in another brand remote start to take advantage of their long range transmitters. Worked well for me this morning. Got into a toasty warm truck to take the kids to school.

I think Chrysler/Dodge are about the only plug and play system they have. Other makes would require a bit more cut and splicing in the wiring.
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Not sure if this ever got turned into another discussion but it should especially this time of year. I just purchased the same setup off EBAY for 89.99 and installed it in about 30 minutes. SIMPLE install, no wires to cut and does exactly as described it remote starts the truck using your existing FOB.
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Old 10-21-2014, 05:48 PM
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I ordered one, but ended up having to purchase the Flash Link aswel to program it correctly. I installed mine in a 2010 Caravan (work van) as my truck doesnt have remote locks. Im thinking of ordering another and a key-fob kit for it.

Very easy to do, For the van I had to change the T-Harness, as it comes wired for 12+, you have to change 1 wire for 10-11. But all the instruction are easy to fallow.
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Tmorre...... can you provide the link to the item on Ebay please.
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Here is the link for the seller I purchased from. It was the best price around and actually got delivered earlier than scheduled.


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Here is the link for the seller I purchased from. It was the best price around and actually got delivered earlier than scheduled.


Fortin EVO CHRT5 Stand Alone Remote Start Chrysler Dodge Jeep Combo Regular Key | eBay
What year is your truck? please say 05-06
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Sorry, 2008 SLT 4.7.


Check out their website, it is Fortin.CA it has the 06 listed.


https://fortin.ca/en/vehicles/dodge/dakota/2006/
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Ok, so i found one that does work on the 06 and older trucks.

I was investigating the fortin Evo, but according to Fortin's website and Caralarmdepot.com, they say that it wont work on an 06 and older. what they did recommend is that we get a bypass (fortin or other brand) and a CodeAlarm remote start system:

http://caralarmdepot.com/store/index...d=240&parent=3

I looked into this and realized that cutting wires is a bit beyond my capabilities. So i looked into some local car alarm installers, and i found one who installs this system. It costed me 325.00. I had it done the day before thanksgiving. I got my truck back and they had installed a wire wrong which kept the radio on while everything is off. So I took it back and they got it fixed.

The system works good. On my system i have to hit the lock-unlock-lock buttons in that sequence and it will start the truck and stop it. IT will also keep the truck running after you put it in park by activating that sequence while the key is in the ignition, just as long as you dont hit the break pedal.

My biggest issue is that my remotes dont work 100%. So this system is at the mercy of the quality of your remotes. I think that i need new batteries. but the system when the truck does recieve the signals from the remotes, it does start properly.

I was skeptical of remote starts cause my wife has a 06 pontiac Grand Prix which has issues starting even when using the key in the ignition.

The individual componets are cheaper to buy and install your self, but as mentioned before, i have no place poking around in the wiring of my truck especially when it has something to do with making it run, so i had a company do it and they have stood behind their work.

I do recommend this system.

I hope this makes since and is helpfull.
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Fortin has the 05+ listed on the site as a compatible vehicle, Its just the new module the "Evo-One" that has the remote start feature. I bet the Evo-All still does, As the remote is part of its Listed features, But one the chart that shows the different models it has N/A under them for hte Dakota, but has them for the Evo-One.

I wouldnt get another system, I like the fact that the Fortin's use the Factory fobs, and its 3x Lock to start/stop, and there was NO splicing, plug and play with only 1 T Harness (when i set it up in my work 2010 Caravan)
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