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Old 08-17-2010, 03:43 PM
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I want to put some new headlights in my truck OEM nothing else and no blue lights. I was wondering who makes the brightest factory replacement bulb?

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Old 08-17-2010, 03:55 PM
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I've really like Sylvania Silverstar's in the past, before HID's. They're bright, but nothing compares
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^^^^^ Agreed.

But i would spend the 50-75 and get HIDs.
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Old 08-17-2010, 05:23 PM
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What brand HID?
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Any brand will work. Get a kit off ebay and a set (or two) of 50 watt load resistors from ebay and call it a day.


There are more than a FEW threads on this. Dont take it the wrong way but we get a lot of noobs with HID questions so there is plenty of info out there on it but I will sum it all up for you

Our trucks PCM and FCM read a resistance measurement through the headlight and tail light bulb filaments. When a filament blows the resistance drops and this lets the PCM/FCM know a bulb is out and two things happen here.

1) the modules reduce voltage and
2) the Lamp Out on the dash comes on to notify the driver

So because HIDs are gas filled and not a filament type bulb, when you plug them in the PCM/FCM module does not see "bulbs" and those two things stated above happen.

But because the voltage has been reduced, the HID kits will normally strobe or flicker.

The OEM filament type bulbs are 55w/65w bulbs. One the headlight harness plugs there are three wires. There is the low beam (12v), the high beam (12v) and the common (-).

So my taking 50 watt load resistors and adding them onto the HID harnesses, we can used them to replicate the resistance needed to trick the PCM/FCM into thinking there are bulbs there and that will reciprocate the two issues stated above. In other words, full voltage will be supplied and no Lamp Out light on the dash.

Specifically, the resistors get wired as such. We know there are two ends to each resistor and there are three wires on each headlight. Take one load resistor and splice it to the low beam (12v) wire and the other end to the common (-) wire. The other resistor goes with one end spliced to the high beam (12v) wire and the other to the same common (-) wire.

I think this covers everything.
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I have had piaa white extreme blue plus 4k in both my rams there a 55w bulb but output is 85w normal beam and 110 highbeam u can get them for rams driving lights also. iv had them for over a year now and they got a 1 year waranty. but pricier than silverstars
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Any brand will work. Get a kit off ebay and a set (or two) of 50 watt load resistors from ebay and call it a day.


There are more than a FEW threads on this. Dont take it the wrong way but we get a lot of noobs with HID questions so there is plenty of info out there on it but I will sum it all up for you

Our trucks PCM and FCM read a resistance measurement through the headlight and tail light bulb filaments. When a filament blows the resistance drops and this lets the PCM/FCM know a bulb is out and two things happen here.

1) the modules reduce voltage and
2) the Lamp Out on the dash comes on to notify the driver

So because HIDs are gas filled and not a filament type bulb, when you plug them in the PCM/FCM module does not see "bulbs" and those two things stated above happen.

But because the voltage has been reduced, the HID kits will normally strobe or flicker.

The OEM filament type bulbs are 55w/65w bulbs. One the headlight harness plugs there are three wires. There is the low beam (12v), the high beam (12v) and the common (-).

So my taking 50 watt load resistors and adding them onto the HID harnesses, we can used them to replicate the resistance needed to trick the PCM/FCM into thinking there are bulbs there and that will reciprocate the two issues stated above. In other words, full voltage will be supplied and no Lamp Out light on the dash.

Specifically, the resistors get wired as such. We know there are two ends to each resistor and there are three wires on each headlight. Take one load resistor and splice it to the low beam (12v) wire and the other end to the common (-) wire. The other resistor goes with one end spliced to the high beam (12v) wire and the other to the same common (-) wire.

I think this covers everything.

where do you locate the resistors? i know they can get crazy hot
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where do you locate the resistors? i know they can get crazy hot
you aint kiddin.. my buddy messed with me and told me to move them off the bumber frame and only had them on for a few seconds.. they stuck to my fingers!
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where do you locate the resistors? i know they can get crazy hot
These are where mine are. They are not around anything else they can touch.

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Just get you some 6000K HID's it'll be a bright white. Once you go HIDS you never go back.
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I want to put some new headlights in my truck OEM nothing else and no blue lights. I was wondering who makes the brightest factory replacement bulb?

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They are a little hard to find but Philips Xtreme Power http://www.xp-lamp.com/ are the best ones. The are not coated blue (blue coatings actualy reduces the light output) and look great.
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If you do go the HID route, order V-LEDS.com relay kit. It's plug and play and I have no "light out" indicator or flickering an no extra BS.
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I like my Silverstars in the headlamps. I use the Silverstar Ultra's in the fogs. They don't make the Ultra's for the headlamps even though I asked them too
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Any brand will work. Get a kit off ebay and a set (or two) of 50 watt load resistors from ebay and call it a day....
Curious - what is the ohm value on these? Are they 4 ohm resistors that present a 50 watt (48 actually) load at 12 volts, or are they some other resistance but rated to dissipate up to 50 watts?

I'm an old-fashioned electronics guy, so I look at these kinds of things a little differently than most.

EDIT - I just took a peek on ebay. Looks like they're 6 ohm 50 watt resistors. Answered my own question.
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Weedahoe, if thats not a sticky it should be.
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I also am looking for good quality headlights that are extremely bright. I have an 01 Ram sport with aftermarket headlights (smoked lens,not black reflectors with halos). They flat out suck. Very hard to see with. And the high beams are even more horrible. I checked out the web site carid.com and no Hid's. They have CCFL's,but none of them fit the sport model. Anyone have any thoughts on web sites to check out. Or where I can just find something other than going back to OEM. Thanks
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^^^ They suck because you bought those cheap ebay headlights that look cool physically but as you said it yourself, suck at light output.

Either invest in a set of true HID projectors and use HID, go back to stock and use Silverstar bulbs or keep what you got.

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weed, i suppose you can run those halos all day being amber without any cop trouble
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Those are actually red. Pics are just too big and I dont feel like resizing.

Those are also for an 06-08. I did a set for a member here some time back. I did a set for me also but sold them.

I now have a set of Infiniti Q45's Im doing a retro fit on right now
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