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Old 09-27-2013, 06:26 PM
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Default Transmission Fluid/Filter change

I'll be changing the Transmission Fluid and Filter this weekend on my 05 Ram.
After the pan is off and all the fluid has Drained/Spilled out.
Is there a timetable to begin the refill ? or, is it more like,
After I've cleaned the mess up, I can then start to refill ?

Which brand to use ?

-- Castrol/Transmax ATF+4
-- Valvoline/ATF+4
-- Auto-zone ATF+4


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Old 09-27-2013, 06:31 PM
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Also. Is adding a bottle of Lucas Trans Conditioner a good idea at this point ?
Trans has 139,000 miles on it. I towed a Jeep and trailer approx. 8 times a
year for the past two years up thru the mountains of Pennsylvania.
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Mine probably drained for a couple or three hours while I cleaned the pan and applied a thin layer of RTV (mostly to hold the new gasket in place). I used seven quarts of Valvoline.
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Do not add any transmission additives to the fluid.
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Mine probably drained for a couple or three hours while I cleaned the pan and applied a thin layer of RTV (mostly to hold the new gasket in place). I used seven quarts of Valvoline.
Gotcha.That's a good idea. It does look like the gasket will need a little help staying in it's place. Thanks.
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I take it you guys decided to add a gasket, or was this with an aftermarket pan? OEM uses RTV to seal the pan; my PML pan came with a gasket.
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I take it you guys decided to add a gasket, or was this with an aftermarket pan? OEM uses RTV to seal the pan; my PML pan came with a gasket.
There were two different trans filter kits to get.
The one I bought, which said it was for the 15 bolt pan, came with a gasket.
The other one says to use RTV.

I also bought a tube of Black RTV, just in case.
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There were two different trans filter kits to get.
The one I bought, which said it was for the 15 bolt pan, came with a gasket.
The other one says to use RTV.

I also bought a tube of Black RTV, just in case.
I'm assuming you went to auto zone? I saw the same, two different ones to choose from.I'm just doing drop and drain, no flush, so how many quarts will I need?
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Also should I get the one with the gasket or the other that u use rvt ?
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I'm assuming you went to auto zone? I saw the same, two different ones to choose from.I'm just doing drop and drain, no flush, so how many quarts will I need?
Yes, Auto zone. Drop and drain also. No flush. Pretty sure OEM calls for 6.6 quarts. I went with Auto zone ATF-4 for Chrysler. It was either that or Valvaline ATF-4.
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Also should I get the one with the gasket or the other that u use rvt ?
The 15 "bolt pan" one comes with a gasket, but I'm not using it. Going with RTV instead.
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Yes, Auto zone. Drop and drain also. No flush. Pretty sure OEM calls for 6.6 quarts. I went with Auto zone ATF-4 for Chrysler. It was either that or Valvaline ATF-4.
thats what im going with auto zone ATF-4.
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The 15 "bolt pan" one comes with a gasket, but I'm not using it. Going with RTV instead.
not sure if ill go with gasket or RTV
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Yes, Auto zone. Drop and drain also. No flush. Pretty sure OEM calls for 6.6 quarts. I went with Auto zone ATF-4 for Chrysler. It was either that or Valvaline ATF-4.
so I'll need about 7 quarts to just drop and drain? Would that cover it?
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There's a write up by DirtyDog about a full flush DIY but yea you only need 7 qts if you're just dropping the pan
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Do not add any transmission additives to the fluid.
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Transmission fluid additives, such as Lucas, are formulated to cause the o-rings and seals to swell and accelerate their breaking down over time.

Things You Should NEVER do to Your Transmission.

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Don't put any additives in your transmission. Transmission fluid is specially designed for the application. And it's a very competitive business. If there really was a superior additive to the fluid, the transmission manufacturers or the fluid makers would be falling all over themselves to put it in there. If you're having a problem, additives like Lucas may seem like a good idea at the time, and may actually work for a while. These additives work by swelling the rubber seals in the transmission. The problem is that the rubber seals keep swelling, so after about a month or so, they lose their integrity and fail. During this time, you'll be tearing up more of the transmission, and increasing your repair cost significantly.
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Took the Lucas Trans conditioner back and got one more quart of ATF-4.
Got the truck home to do the fluid and filter change.
I put two big catch pans under the trans. I loosened all the pan bolts and
"cracked" the pan open enough to allow the fluid to drain out as much as possible.
Got what I thought was a lot of the cherry juice out. Didn't look too dirty.
Took out the pan off and the rest of the fluid went all over the place just as I expected.
Cleaned the inside and outside of pan. Pulled the Magnet and cleaned it out also.
Thought this would be a good time to sand and paint the pan since it was off.
(We'll see how this turns out.)

Now it's time to get the filters off and re-install the new ones.
The old filters are slippery as hell. This should be fun.................
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The large filter has a Torx ( T-30 ) bolt holding it on. The small round one just takes an oil filter wrench.
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Be careful with painting the pan. There's a member on another forum who had the paint chip and get into the fluid causing the tranny to fail completely
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