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Old 11-17-2008, 11:30 PM
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i am interested in the power wire that makes your cpu think it is 20 degrees cooler and advancing the timing. my question is: do hemi owners that have actually used this mod notice a difference?

i have read the past threads and didnt see any hemi owners that have this mod. i am looking to hear from only those that have used this. no sellers of product or people who know someone or v6s or 4.7s owners.

are there any hemi owners that can give me an opinion?

also i have seen that one can be made for $2. i am interested in what i need to do this. pics would be nice. thanks.
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Old 11-18-2008, 07:02 AM
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I have one on my Hemi and I like it. It does exactly what it says it does too. I have checked the timing and intake air temp using my superchips and the powerwire does drop the reading the computer is getting from the intake sensor by about 10 degrees as compared to the actual outside temp . I think it is a nice mod for the $40 that I paid for it. I have heard of people making them for a lot less but you need to get the right resistor and have to cut and splice into your wires. This you just plug in line with your sensor and can easily remove it whenever you want.
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Old 11-18-2008, 07:19 AM
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It works, but realize that the pcm compares the actual temp to values in a table. And that table has a floor. The pcm reacts no differently to 40 degree weather then it does to 20 or 0 degree weather. That means the powerwire wont do anything for you during the winter in WV. The power wire is a great summertime mod. Guys in the south can use it year round and see results.

Oh, I ran one for a number of years.
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Old 11-18-2008, 09:25 AM
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are we talking about that stuff on e-bay again????? i hear that stuff doesent work big rip off. but i can be thinking of something else
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Old 11-18-2008, 09:36 AM
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No, we're not talking about that stuff on ebay.

Look here- www.airram.com
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Old 11-18-2008, 11:16 AM
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Airram makes good products, not the junk you find on eBay.
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I have mine ready for the spring.
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I cut the stock wire and crimped in the proper resistor for less than $1. It's covered in heatshrink and will last forever. I certainly don't plan to ever remove it.
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Looks like I am in the minority and will say that it does not work; at least for me. I seen my mileage and throttle response go down. I installed it and then took it off (after a few weeks either way), then repeated the process again. I finally sold mine, but would have given it away. I hope you are one of the fortunate ones that it works for.
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Old 11-18-2008, 11:55 PM
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thanks for the info those of you that have experience with the wire. i would like now for some info on how to make my own wire. thanks in advance.
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Old 11-19-2008, 12:15 AM
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Looks like I am in the minority and will say that it does not work; at least for me. I seen my mileage and throttle response go down. I installed it and then took it off (after a few weeks either way), then repeated the process again. I finally sold mine, but would have given it away. I hope you are one of the fortunate ones that it works for.
Tha'ts strange... when did you purchase it and did you purchase it through AIRRAM.com? Was it new or used... Did you attempt to contact us so we could help figure it out? I don't recall hearing from you about your issue with the POWER WIRE...

Your symptoms are strange since when installed the "POWER WIRE" can not cause you to burn more fuel unless your at WOT... that's the ONLY time it can cause you to burn more fuel. Out side of WOT in all part throttle positions your o2 sensors keep the AFR nailed to 14.75:1... So with or without the POWER WIRE.... your MPG should not have suffered unless you where WOT in that case it would add approximately 2.5% more fuel at WOT only. Well I guess also in OPEN LOOP when you first start the engine... if you turn it off and on allot you would burn a bit more until it goes into closed loop... but unless you make short frequent trips turning it off/on that would not be a variable.

It would have been nice to have the opportunity to help figure out what went wrong. Something goofy was wrong... But since you don't have it any longer there isn't much we can do about it... sorry it did not work for you...

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Yes, I did buy it from Airram.com
After I installed it, the transmission would not automatically kick down into a lower gear if I gave it a little more gas to pass or if I was going up a hill. I had to give it about 1/2 throttle for the tranny to kick down. Like I said, just to make sure it wasn't my imagination I took it off, then reinstalled it. Maybe mine was faulty??
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Yes, I did buy it from Airram.com
After I installed it, the transmission would not automatically kick down into a lower gear if I gave it a little more gas to pass or if I was going up a hill. I had to give it about 1/2 throttle for the tranny to kick down. Like I said, just to make sure it wasn't my imagination I took it off, then reinstalled it. Maybe mine was faulty??
It should NOT have effected your shifting. To effect your shifting it by holding the gear longer sounds like it was making more power so the pcm felt it should shift later in the RPM range... Did you attempt to reset your PCM with it installed? Its not uncommon for a mod to cause your PCM to get quirky. Did it give you an engine light? Because if it was bad it would have caused an engine light... also, did you attempt to contact me on this issue? If I failed to respond i do appologize... but I honestly don't recall any issues like this.

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I've heard a lot of stuff before, but the powerwire effecting shifting is new to me....
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There is no better example
of Air_Ram selling a near worthless product
at extreme profit levels
than the so called 'Power Wire'

There is no need to be taken for a sucker
when knowledge is nearly free for the taking
with just a little effort on your part.

Air_Ram will not tell you that this was tested
on Chrysler's own shaft dynos
by a forum poster who went by the name dodge3471

this is the same dodge3471
who was rougher on Air_Ram's nonsense talk
than I have been

Didn't he honestly tell you Nick,
that you were 'over your head'
and should put your 4.7 back to factory stock,
or hire a professional ?

Not too long after that,
you paid HemiFever to straighten it out for you with a SCT tune,
which is one of the more sensible things you swallowed your pride and did.

It is a wise idea to learn about IAT sensors,
and how to match their readings to ignition timing,
but it is a waste of money to buy a PowerWire
until you understand enough to be certain you don't need it.
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Old 11-21-2008, 11:20 AM
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There is no better example
of Air_Ram selling a near worthless product
at extreme profit levels
than the so called 'Power Wire'

There is no need to be taken for a sucker
when knowledge is nearly free for the taking
with just a little effort on your part.

Air_Ram will not tell you that this was tested
on Chrysler's own shaft dynos
by a forum poster who went by the name dodge3471
Ahh, the infamous dynotest that no one has ever been able to produce...

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this is the same dodge3471
who was rougher on Air_Ram's nonsense talk
than I have been
Where is old doge3471 now? Oh yeah, he got ran off of several dodge forums after it was shown that he didn't know what he was talking about. Similar to you. You two were always quick to spout theory even when guys were coming back from the track, time slips in hand, to show that something worked.

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Didn't he honestly tell you Nick,
that you were 'over your head' and should put your 4.7 back to factory stock,
or hire a professional ?
Nick has the fastest 4.7 there is. What do you have? Where's your time slip? The only thing going "over your head" here is your lack of understanding of the difference between theory and practice.

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Not too long after that,
you paid HemiFever to straighten it out for you with a SCT tune,
which is one of the more sensible things you swallowed your pride and did.
Why is it a bad thing that he got a custom tune? You do realize that a truck needs a tune to take advantage of performance mods. There's no secret there.

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It is a wise idea to learn about IAT sensors,
and how to match their readings to ignition timing,
but it is a waste of money to buy a PowerWire
until you understand enough to be certain you don't need it.
Yeah guys, don't worry if your CAI and headers are leaning out your top end... that is exactly what the powerwire helps with- richening up the top end. Listen to Mr Theory here and don't bother following any track results.

Hank, do us all a favor and STOP quoting your bench racing theories. You don't even have a fast truck.
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Old 11-21-2008, 12:21 PM
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Air_Ram makes good stuff and sells it at a good price. I don't know why HankL is bashing on him like that. For anyone who is reading this post unsure of wether to buy a power wire, don't go by the bashing above, talk to someone who has the product. I personally like mine a lot and think it is worth the money. And it does make a difference in performance.
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Old 11-21-2008, 02:45 PM
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it is always better to find things out for yourself
so spend 25 cents for a resistor
50 cents each for two Berg connectors
and try it the magical beans ... I mean PowerWire... for yourself
and measure the results the way the MegaSquirt guys do a good test:

http://www.bgsoflex.com/dyno.html

have a friend use your cell phone or video camera to record a view of your speed as you make the runs

be safe

after trying out the PowerWire
look at the little spiral wrap on the front of the viscous clutch fan
and gently practice fitting a insulated copper wire into the spiral
to cause this 'bimetalic thermostat' to
slightly expand and lock the clutch
as if 220 degree or more air was flowing past it

now run a few passes
with and without locking the viscous clutch fan
.... around 5000 rpm the locked fan will use 20 hp
but this also means that when it is freewheeling
at low rpm it will use less than 2 hp
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Old 11-21-2008, 05:13 PM
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How much for Airram and Hankl to fight each other?I want to sell tickets!
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Even though I do not know airram, or have a personal connection with him, other than him trying to helpme on a few forums(thanks for all your help), I recognize and respect him. And until he does ME wrong, I will not think otherwise. Even if he was trying to sell us bad parts, its not anyones part in trying to sabatoge him and his business. If he was selling bad parts I think word would get around people would not buy from him. But that is not the case.
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