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Does a 3rd gen 5.9 cummins idle up automatically?

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Old 11-08-2007, 07:18 PM
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Default Does a 3rd gen 5.9 cummins idle up automatically?

I have a 2004.5 dodge ram 2500 cummins 5.9 4X4. In the morning it idles rougher than **** on a stick. (its -5 to -10 celcius mornings now). It surges and sounds like it is going to die. but anywys besides Powerstroke guys laughing at me in the morning I noticed something else today. It idled up from about 700-750 (normal) to about 1000 rpm automatically. I wasnt even in cab. I like that because I wanted to bump the idle up to 1000. Can it be done manually or is it automatically or is my truck just hooped?
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Old 11-08-2007, 07:24 PM
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Default RE: Does a 3rd gen 5.9 cummins idle up automatically?

my truck does that too, i figured it has to be doing it for a good reason tho......
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Old 11-08-2007, 07:26 PM
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does yours sound like $#%@ in the morning? mine surges like its going to die. after i drive it a while it clears up.
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Old 11-08-2007, 07:50 PM
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Default RE: Does a 3rd gen 5.9 cummins idle up automatically?

I don't have an idle problem at start up and I don't know if it has anything to do with the climate ( I'm in the deep south ), or the fact that I use an additive. ( Stanadyne )

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Old 11-08-2007, 08:12 PM
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Default RE: Does a 3rd gen 5.9 cummins idle up automatically?

it is normal. . .when outside temps are below 50F and the truck has sat at idle for a certian time it will automaticaly idle up to ensure proper combustion. . .


perfectly normal.
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Old 11-08-2007, 08:12 PM
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Default RE: Does a 3rd gen 5.9 cummins idle up automatically?

When the truck is cold it will idle rough....use the plug in heater my dear...it helps a TON

I have the high idle function enabled so I can force it up to around a grand to help it warm up faster...turning on the Jake helps too

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Old 11-08-2007, 08:27 PM
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Working in the far north we've seen (in past winters) temps of -40F for a week straight!! Even with the truck "plugged in" she still runs rough. I usually let her idle for about 5mins then kick up the high idle feature to about 1200rpm for a few minutes more, she smooths out and I usuallydrive off slow to warm up trany and pumpkins! Let the ferd guys laugh... have ya ever listen to a ferd rattle when its cold? They sound like they're about to fall apart!! They have the most disconcerting rattling and knocking I've ever heard... I tend to keep my distance from em, for fear something may come flying out from under the hood and hit me! [:@]
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Old 11-08-2007, 08:32 PM
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Ok I don't play in -40 (some days I wish I did but I don't)
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Old 11-08-2007, 08:49 PM
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Its real fun... when yer truck has been sitting for 8 to 12 hrs in -40F the tires get real hard!! You can drive several miles before the "flat" spot starts to get round again... thump!!.... roll.... thump..... roll..... thump....times four tires.. [:'(]
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Old 11-08-2007, 09:46 PM
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yep sounds like fairbanks alaska except there has been time where its -60 for a week that was when i had my ford it either woldent start or it would take 3 hrstoo get it to start even then it ran like it was gonna fall apart the dodge has seen -50 for a couple days and it fires right up and both of them had about every type of heater that you can put on a truck oil heater, block heater, trans heaterand interor heater. the ford had 2 block heaters and still woldent start thats why i dont drive that pos anymore
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Old 11-08-2007, 10:00 PM
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so its normal u r saying to idle up automatically to 1000 rpm when cold. how long should it idle at 750 rpm before going to 1000 rpm? it took mine like 2 minutes before it did. Can we idle them up manually or not?
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Old 11-08-2007, 10:40 PM
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Default RE: Does a 3rd gen 5.9 cummins idle up automatically?

for auto's if the function is enabled you can do it by use of the cruise control, and yes it will automaticaly idle up after a little bit.

if you have a stick you will need a grounding wire to acomplish this.
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Old 11-09-2007, 12:17 AM
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Default RE: Does a 3rd gen 5.9 cummins idle up automatically?

What year did they start putting the high idle function in? I have a 2004.5 and would like to get the high idle function enabled if it is available. How does it work? Mine idles up a few minute after I start it then idle down, but I would love to be able to bump it up sooner!
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Old 11-09-2007, 12:18 AM
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Default RE: Does a 3rd gen 5.9 cummins idle up automatically?

I have an 02, is there a high idle for my truck? Its an auto
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Old 11-09-2007, 08:03 AM
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Default RE: Does a 3rd gen 5.9 cummins idle up automatically?

the high idle is a 3rd gen thing. . .Norman, you will need a grounding wire from cummins to hook up to the ECM and then have the dealer enable the function for you to use it.
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Old 11-09-2007, 09:21 AM
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have ya ever listen to a ferd rattle when its cold? They sound like they're about to fall apart!! They have the most disconcerting rattling and knocking I've ever heard... I tend to keep my distance from em, for fear something may come flying out from under the hood and hit me!
That is what I do to, I thought I was the only one that was scared of them things .
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Old 11-09-2007, 09:36 PM
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Drew

is this something I can hook up myself? If so do you have a Diagram of where on the ECM to hook to and I am asuming that it just hooks to the frame.
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Old 11-14-2007, 05:09 PM
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Default RE: Does a 3rd gen 5.9 cummins idle up automatically?

Wow. I knew it would kick to high idle and assumed it was normal, but had no idea I could manually do it. I will have to try it when I go home. Sounds similar to a Mack I drove and how we set the PTO speed.
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Old 11-14-2007, 05:19 PM
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Drew

is this something I can hook up myself? If so do you have a Diagram of where on the ECM to hook to and I am asuming that it just hooks to the frame.

sorry for not getting back with you earlier but there is apigtail with a part number you can order directly from cummins. . .I dont have it off hand, but you tap that wire onto pin 22 on ECM plug B, then just ground that wire to the frame. go to the dealer and have them enable the high idle function. after they have it enabled you turn the cruise control on, then push set and the engine will automaticaly idle up to 1100rpm. then you can use the accel and decel buttons to raise and lower the rpm's by 100rpm's to a max of 1500rpm.
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Old 11-15-2007, 02:07 AM
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Default RE: Does a 3rd gen 5.9 cummins idle up automatically?

Thanks Drew

I am assuming that Plug B is the one on the Right. I am going to call Cummins to find out about that pigtail tomorrow! Then I need to call the Dodge Steeler to see how much of my money they are going to take![:@]
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