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Old 08-23-2004, 08:55 PM
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Default OIL CHANGED TO SYNTHETIC???????

Hey guys......new dodge owner here....used to own the chevy but from now on its the dodge. I bought a 2000 quad cab 4x4 with 55000 miles on it and i was wanting to know if you guys thought it would hurt anything to change it from the regular oil to the synthetic with that many miles on it and if you thought it would hurt anything. I know the other truck i had they started out on it from the beginning but this didnt and i dont know if i should change it to the synthetic from the regular.......Please give me any input that you can.....thanx and i look forward to talking with you guys!!!!!!
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Old 08-23-2004, 08:57 PM
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i know you have the poll going but justed wanted to know the thoughts on it
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Old 08-23-2004, 09:28 PM
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I did my truck when I got it (high miles @ 121k) and I have no problems. I also did the BMW @ 135K and no problems.

I recommend mobil 1 (I use 15w50).
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Old 08-23-2004, 09:45 PM
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Steve....is there a reason why you chose 15w50 rather than 10w30 or 10w40.......just curious?
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Old 08-23-2004, 11:51 PM
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I have used Moble 1, Royal Purple and AMSOIL and did not notice a difference in any of them, though they are all greatly better than reg oil.

I now stay with Moble 1 for the price.
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if you check out mobil 1's website you can find some intresting info on myths about syn oil

http://www.mobil1.com/index.jsp

It appears if im reading this right you can change a car over at any time.
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Old 08-25-2004, 01:28 PM
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I use Mobil1 on mine, although I did not have alot of miles on it when I changed my oil over to synthetic. I did alot of research on the subject and the only thing that I found is that you should not use synthetic for the break-in. Other than that you should be able to make the switch at any time regardless of the miles that are on the vehicle.
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Steve....is there a reason why you chose 15w50 rather than 10w30 or 10w40.......just curious?
100 degree sacramento summer days, I've tried 5w50 in my Jeep 5.2 & felt like it was not protected well enough... if felt loose and made more noise than with the 15w50. so in my mind that equaled less protection on the cylinder walls & bearing journals so I switched to the 15w50 & haven't used anything else since. I also tried this on the BMW motor & felt the same way with how it ran. A rebuilt BMW motor is $3500... ouch (doesn't include labor), I'll stick with the 15w50 mobil 1 oil. The only drawback is in the winters when i go tothe mtns...takes a little bit to get it warmed up, but for the most part, here in Sacramento, we have very mild winters (30's and never any snow) so it's not a problem
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Old 08-28-2004, 02:41 AM
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Steve....is there a reason why you chose 15w50 rather than 10w30 or 10w40.......just curious?
100 degree sacramento summer days, I've tried 5w50 in my Jeep 5.2 & felt like it was not protected well enough... if felt loose and made more noise than with the 15w50. so in my mind that equaled less protection on the cylinder walls & bearing journals so I switched to the 15w50 & haven't used anything else since. I also tried this on the BMW motor & felt the same way with how it ran. A rebuilt BMW motor is $3500... ouch (doesn't include labor), I'll stick with the 15w50 mobil 1 oil. The only drawback is in the winters when i go tothe mtns...takes a little bit to get it warmed up, but for the most part, here in Sacramento, we have very mild winters (30's and never any snow) so it's not a problem
You should have your oil tested and see how your oil is really doing. Feelings and sounds are not an accurate indicator. There are several brands of vehicles that now run 5w-20. The long term oil analysis results have proven that the thinner oil has protected the engines flawlessly. This is contrary to what all the "thicker is better" crowd said would happen. Read some of the oil analysis results at www.bobistheoilguy.com and see for yourself.

I use a synthetic diesel 15w-40 in my 5.9 Ram because it has 137,000 miles on the engine. In my Dakota (67,000 miles), I use a synthetic diesel 5w-30.
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Old 09-02-2004, 10:51 PM
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i just switched to synthetic for the price difference. $32 for 3000 miles or $50 for 6500 miles. Maybe i am wrong but it makes sense to me, a penny a mile or seven tenths of a penny a mile. Plus it provides better protection.
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one thing I found interesting with the last job I had, I operated a Freightliner. Took it in to have some services done on it and found out it had synthetics, all the guys did was yank the filter off, put oil in the filter, then check to make sure the case was toped off and sent me out the door.

at the time I knew that conventional oils broke down after time, but I didnt know much about synthetics at the time. I can say, if all the people do is change the filter and top it off, then synthetics must not break down as easily as conventionals.

but I guess it's all good since I can go 15,000 before my first oil change on my cummins
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Old 09-03-2004, 03:05 PM
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This subject is a touchy subject....kinda like religion or politics....

That being said....best thing you can do is have your oil analyzed. I just switch from synthetic to convential Castrol GTX due to analysis results I've seen and experienced. Your environment, and driving habits can make one oil work better than another...I was running 5w-30 synth in my Ram 4.7L and because I drive short distances to work...2 miles, I killed the synthetic oil's viscosity at 3500 miles...my oil was evaluated as 20w-30. All the other properties were pretty good. Then again, maybe my oil was just that bad....Valvoline Synpower.

Additives make a big difference in oil life and engine wear along with a good oil filter.
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Hello there....

This is a touchy subject, but facts are still facts. Touchy: because you still will here from individuals that have had wonderful experiences on "used" oil. I'm one of the few that you will ever talk to or see write on actual facts! In addition I have 0/zero interest in any company! I learned for the world of hard knocks!
Synthetic oil , compared to conventional in this situation is by far superior.
I agree having oil analyzed (looked at close) true analyzing and documentation is $3000.00+ . Not worth the time.
I need to address "Silverquad02" I have yet to see beyond a reasonable doubt the benefits of conventional oil, in comparison to conventional oil. In addition to; someone resorting back to the conventional lubricant due to benefits beyond synthetic is absolutely absurd.
In closing this had been heavily covered, and I think YOU (Silverquad02) are making the attempt out of total ignorance to change the opinion, and or FACTS that contribute to this topic.


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so wut do u guys do w/ ur used oil after you change it out
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Using syn oil during the break-in was a no-no in the old days, but today's engines are made to closer specs and don't need the "grinding down" that dino oil allows. Many high performance cars come with syn oil direct from the factory, including the Dodge Viper and SRT-4. The owner's manual on my SRT recommends only syn oil....no dino oil for a "break-in"....and the service techs at my dealership concur.

With a larger, understressed engine, you can probably get by with dino oil....but hot rods like the SRT-4 and the Viper need the best!

BTW, synthetic oil is used in every military jet and commercial jet in the world. It's also used in all spacecraft. Dino oils can't handle the extreme temps. and break down too fast to make them cost effective.....
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I don't take the chance of letting a dino oil break down here in Texas. Only syn for me after helping buddy of mind change out his intake on a 99 dakota with 120,000. he only used syn the entire time and the top of the engine was perfect. made a believer outta me.
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Everyones oil needs are different....Like Dusty states, the road rockets need synth. My Ram which travels 2 miles to work....Synth offers no benefit. So instead of me pissing my money away on synth oil, I buy Castrol which has moly as an additive (startup wear protection) and use the money I save to pimp my ride! I am eyeballing a billet grill. So if I save say $25 an oil change...I can get a new billet grill in a year! Whoohoo!

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I changed my truck over at 23,000 miles to Mobil 1 syn and I can tell the truck runs much quieter not to mention much cooler too.
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Yeah, the reduced friction helps to keep the temp down. That's a "biggie" on a turbo and helpful on all engines.
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Used synthetic oil in my 1st new car (89 nissan sentra) sold that with 133K miles, then in the next one (92 Saturn) still got that but had to change the engine out (due to timing chain busting) original engine had 237K on it with around 85K of those were at european speeds (104mph) on it, then in my 98 Dakota which was traded in with 139K, and running Mobil 1 in the current vehicles (both have low low mileage right now) Costs some, but I've reaped the benefits.
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