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Old Aug 21, 2008 | 11:18 PM
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hey guys back from campin finally had a quick question for yall. Got my 3' lift torsion keys yesterday but before I go lossen the torsion bolt do I need that torsion tool or can I just loosen the bolt without the whole thing flyin in my face?
 
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Old Aug 21, 2008 | 11:49 PM
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I just put keys in my truck last week. I used the unloading tool when i did it and it took less than 20 min. I dont know if you can do it without the tool, but it you can get your hands on one it helps a lot.
 
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Old Aug 21, 2008 | 11:56 PM
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I should also add, even if you can get the torsion bars unloaded without the tool, you wont get the bolt started through the new keys without it cause they will load the bar up at too steep of an angle.
 
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Old Aug 22, 2008 | 11:41 AM
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do they have the keys and tool for the 89, and where, looked on ebay and didnt see anything
 
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Old Aug 22, 2008 | 03:36 PM
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I should also add... for the third time... if you want to go the full 3 inches higher in the front you'll prolly need longer throw shocks and youll also need to remove the upper bump stops located inbetween the upper and lower control arms that keep the suspension from overflexing.
 
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Old Aug 22, 2008 | 07:52 PM
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Alright! FOX its about time! For me I was able to just jack up the front susp. So the wheels are up in the air. This means no load on the susp. Then just loosen the keys. For me the last inch or so of thread it was loose. To install the new keys will take a little efort. But within a few mins without the special tool I got it. Then tighten it up. Half way. Then drop the jack to check how high you want it. For me my stock shocks still fit. The only thing is dont over tighten the key. If you tighten it to much you will see the torsion bar bend, and that is not safe. I can wait to see some pics. Any one who has done this should thow down some pics too.
 
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Old Aug 22, 2008 | 08:13 PM
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yea i know its been a while I got back from the mountains after a week long camping trip then had college start on the 18th been crazy! Thats wut I thought I heard you say one time crazy that helps though cause I don't want go huntin down a torsion tool. Alright this weekend I'll take some before and after pics, thanks for the help let you know if I have any trouble.
 
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Old Aug 28, 2008 | 02:26 AM
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alright crazy how did you get the bolt started with the keys at that steep an angle? I tried pushing as hard as I could on the key but still couldn't get the bolt high enough
 
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Old Aug 28, 2008 | 12:40 PM
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I think i lowered the tire just a little. That forced the bolt to the nut. Maybe if you have to use a c-clamp or a strap (the kind that you crank like a comealong). Or even use a floor jack with a 2x4 to push the key up.
 
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Old Aug 28, 2008 | 10:10 PM
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Hey guys,

I don't post much, but I will help you out on this one. I followed your directions Crazy for removing the old keys, worked fine. BUT I ran into the same problem Fox is having with the new keys. What I did was (with the truck on jack stands) take the hi-jacker hydraulic jack and place it on the inner edge of the key, and very carefully started some of the threads. I was lucky because the top part of my jack has a little lip which was just enough to grab the key a little and allow me to push it up and load the torsion bar without worrying a lot about it slipping on me. I am sure that if your jack doesn't have this you can set a block on the top of the jack and use that to put pressure on the key where you need it. Then I cranked the keys as I normally would. Used a breaker bar with a socket on it because it took quite a bit of force to crank the key to where I wanted it. In total, I raised the front 2 3/4 inches and called it quits there.

As a side note, I also put 2" blocks on the back and air shocks. At 80 PSI the back comes up about 4" from stock.
 
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