Crazy... please close this thread before this gets more out of hand. Everybody has made the point they are trying to make.

 

i think it is you that has the touched nerve sir, and i dont know if you have never been on a forum before or what, but you dont just go calling out everyone that has been on here for years and tell them to f off! i am in no way saying that we know more than you or anyone else on the forum for that matter, but have contributed many many more things here other than trying to make you see you are not making sense. i wish i had money to go out and buy this just to prove it will make a difference, why else would all of these race cars put electric water pumps AND electric fans in there cars if it did not give them some kind of performance gain? and not just poser racers but real racing teams!!!!!

 

x2 sorry this happend to your thread dbilik

 

http://www.superchevy.com/technical/...ump/index.html

This shows the Dyno reports for electric vs. mechanical. Also while explaining the differences between the two and the advantages of each. CSR says their pumps are recommended for street use also, meaning they must be pushing enough flow to keep the engine cool. I am curious to write them now and see exactly how much volume they are pumping and compare it to a stock water pump.

 

Well put! My next door neighbor was into drag racing for years. He had a '68 camaro with a 572 with a 810 lift cam and much more thats too long to list. Now why would he have put all electrical accessories on that 800+ hp 8 second car if they don't rob power from it?

 

no problems. We all drive trucks, we can handle it. Anyways, I didn't even see the other threads pop up before I posted the link. It is a very interesting article nonetheless. It isn't on a Dodge, sorry, but the concepts are the same.

 

Now that is too funny! I hate to say I told you so, but..... oh wait I'd love to say it.

Thanks Dennis!

 

schwing! there is your dyno results

 

I also just found that.

Notice it flows much less water than stock, that is where the gain is from, because it's not doing as much work, simply making something electric doesn't provide any gain. A set of under drive pulleys will give you the same effect. My main argument is that making something electric doesn't automatically free up power, doing less work frees up HP.

And wow, 6 whole HP at 6K and an average of 3HP across the board? Jesus christ that's massive. Totally worth the money
I have thousands of posts on at least a dozen forums. I kept it civil until 95_318SLT couldn't.

 

This article does not prove that... it just proves electric pumps free up power.

That right there proves that the electric and mechanical pumps cannot be compared at the same efficiency level. My argument was never against flow rates, it was about efficiency. You can't tell me based on that article that an electric motor is not more efficient because they didn't use a big enough one to compare it to the work output of the mechanical motor. Let's look at the 6 horsepower max gain... that would come out to be 4.47 kW, and I promise you an electrical equivalent would not be close to requiring 4.47 kW of power... over 100 amps @ 14.4 volts.

I don't have numbers based on two equivalent pumps, which is why the first example I gave was for radiator fans, cause they can be much easier compared... but the concept is the same.

So yes, an electric pump flows less, but that does not mean it is not ALSO more efficient.

And how am I not being civil? Because you keep throwing opinion after opinion at me with no factual evidence and I finally called you out for it and told you to research it? Or because I don't like being told that I don't know about "conservation of energy" cause I've only spend the last several years of my life learning about it? You can't keep telling someone off based on nothing but opinion without them eventually responding to it.