1st Gen Dakota Tech 1987 - 1996 Dodge Dakota Tech - The ultimate forum for technical help on the 1st Gen Dakota.

Blown head gasket and need advice

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Dec 7, 2009 | 08:28 PM
  #1  
nquizitive's Avatar
nquizitive
Thread Starter
|
Registered User
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
Default Blown head gasket and need advice

I have a 91 Dakota, 2 wheel drive regular cab, body is straight. This evening I blew a head gasket, oil is foamy and milky. Is it going to be worth changing the head gasket rather than finding a used engine and transmisson and swapping. The truck has a 3.9 auto, and 213,000 miles, was running low oil pressure but no smoke. What all is involved in changing the head gasket other than the gasket sets and time involved. With an engine and transmission change wll I also need to change the computer or other electrics? Which would be better to do considering the mileage and all?
Thanks for any advice and help you can offer.
 
Reply
Old Dec 7, 2009 | 08:42 PM
  #2  
skyshark186's Avatar
skyshark186
Captain
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 619
Likes: 0
From: Nebraska
Default

The head gaskets arent horrible. Time consuming, and youll need new head bolts because they are torque to yield bolts. Also a torque wrench and factory service manual.

If you upgraded to a v8 you would need a new computer, the engine side harness.
 
Reply
Old Dec 7, 2009 | 10:15 PM
  #3  
dbilik's Avatar
dbilik
Record Breaker
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 1,058
Likes: 7
From: Chicago, IL
Default

Fixing the head gasket is definately easier than swapping motors and a trans. My first time took me 2 full long days, after that I was able to do it in less than 6 hours in the dark by myself. You can buy a head gasket kit with all your gaskets. While you are in there you can also change the bypass tube for the water pump.

And if you upgrade to a V8 you will need a new trans.

Depending on how bad you overheated, if at all, the heads could be checked for flatness.
 
Reply
Old Dec 7, 2009 | 11:00 PM
  #4  
nquizitive's Avatar
nquizitive
Thread Starter
|
Registered User
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
Default

Seemed the head gasket would be easier, just concerned about the high miles. What should be done to clean the sludge out of the engine?
 
Reply
Old Dec 7, 2009 | 11:18 PM
  #5  
95_318SLT's Avatar
95_318SLT
Champion
15 Year Member
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 4,839
Likes: 5
From: Apex, NC
Default

Is there really a lot of sludge in the engine? If it had regular oil changes with quality oil, there shouldn't be any oil sludge. The proper way to get rid of it if there is a lot is to change the oil in shorter intervals to let the fresh oil clean the sludge out. The improper way is to mix kerosene with the oil... which will cut the sludge out too quickly and it could clog up the passageways and bearings. The only other option is to do a full tear down of the engine and get it hot tanked.
 
Reply
Old Dec 7, 2009 | 11:35 PM
  #6  
nquizitive's Avatar
nquizitive
Thread Starter
|
Registered User
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
Default

Thanks, but the sludge I was referring to was caused by the gasket blowing and the coolant mixing with the oil. Is it necessary to do anything special to clean that out. The oil is frothy.
 
Reply
Old Dec 7, 2009 | 11:51 PM
  #7  
95_318SLT's Avatar
95_318SLT
Champion
15 Year Member
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 4,839
Likes: 5
From: Apex, NC
Default

Oh, well I'd say change the oil, run the engine until it gets up to temp and change it again... and replace the filter both times... and you should be good to go.
 
Reply
Old Dec 8, 2009 | 08:31 AM
  #8  
pashadowops's Avatar
pashadowops
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 334
Likes: 0
From: NE PA
Default

You mentioned you were running low oil pressure too. I would probably at least check the oil pump to make sure you're getting proper lubrication to the engine. Could be as simple as a clogged pick-up screen. Of course that will entail dropping the oil pan and replacing that gasket as well but, that's not really a bad thing because that will help get more of the water out of the oil and give you a chance to check other engine components while the pan is off. You know check for metal shavings in the pan and check the bearings for wear. You said the engine has 213k miles on it. I think it would be well worth the extra couple of bucks to do especially before it gets too cold to work on.
 
Reply
Old Dec 8, 2009 | 08:47 AM
  #9  
dbilik's Avatar
dbilik
Record Breaker
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 1,058
Likes: 7
From: Chicago, IL
Default

It is going to smoke for a long time after you replace the head gasket so just be prepared. And like 95_318slt said, change the oil after soon. I'd say after it stops smoking.

Frothy oil is just the coolant mixed in. Btw, if you want to isolate Which head gasket went bad before you dossassemble pull the wires and spark plugs and crank it over. You should see a geyser of coolant come from the cylinders which have been affected.

I blew my head gasket earlier this year 10 hours from home. Towed the truck back. I worried too much about the repair. It was very straight forward.

Did you overheat bad?
 
Reply
Old Dec 8, 2009 | 10:00 AM
  #10  
DukeSupes's Avatar
DukeSupes
Captain
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 565
Likes: 0
From: De Soto KS
Default

I know it wasnt a magnum, but the 318 from a 88 diplomat/police cruiser blew the head gasket on the drivers side. Since that was a carbureted system it was easier to tear apart. However, I was sold the wrong head gaskets and ended up with an oil pan full of oil and water. I was a little less than happy. I let the water oil drain out completely while I ran to the parts store and got the correct head gaskets and quickly reassembled everything else. And as stated before, I poured fresh new oil in and let it run for about 30 or so minutes and surprisingly there was little evidence of water in the oil. I changed oil again and didnt notice anymore at the next oil change. Now, I personally reused the same head bolts again as I was dirt broke at the time and couldnt afford a new set. I just retorqued them to the specified setting and didnt have any trouble.
 
Reply




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:38 AM.