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Old Sep 19, 2016 | 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Moparite
Sure there is, It's a cheby motor!!!
Oh ye of little knowledge. Its Ok, not everyone can be right. You're one of those people.
 
Old Sep 19, 2016 | 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Toby Warford
I'm not going to answer that, we've been through this before as well.
Well I don't remember that, but if you say so man...

Because I KNOW it makes a difference whether the truck is 4wd or 2wd and we do not know which the OP owns so you're just giving generic advice. Best to know the question you're answering before asserting yourself so strongly.
 
Old Sep 19, 2016 | 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Toby Warford
Oh ye of little knowledge. Its Ok, not everyone can be right. You're one of those people.
Okay that's it. I'm done with you, you give little useful advise and mostly just insult people. Ignore list.
 
Old Sep 19, 2016 | 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Toby Warford
You really don't need anything aftermarket (minus a few adapters for the guages) for a vortec swap or different motor mounts for that matter. Not that I remember or have seen. The fuel line has the same connector, the power steering has the same connector, the batter is on the right side, EASY! You guys are confusing simple with easy. And the vortec is still about as simple as you can get. Its all straight forward.
Here's a list of what it does take, Toby:

http://ls1tech.com/forums/conversion...ge-dakota.html

OTOH, the Magnum swap is STILL easier - no custom / purchased adapter plates, no need to make a new driveshaft, etc.

And no, I'm not confusing simpler with easier. Although both words tend to be used interchangeably, both actually fit here.

Not saying the LS swap is HARD, mind you! On a scale of 1 to 10, where 1 is "leave all the original in" and 10 is "How'd you fit that radial airplane motor in there, I'd like to know!" both are about a 1.3 to 1.4 ...

But as pointed out, it's all moot; the OP hasn't responded, so it's all armchair arguing at this point.

But tell you what. If a Vortec or LS swap is so easy, why don't you do it to your truck? Show everyone that it's easier than swapping in a matching motor, transmission, and ECU.

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Old Sep 19, 2016 | 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by mopar dave
are you going to use this as a driver or a toy?
going with a turbo can be done with used parts,keeping the cost down, they are fun and are very addictive, so people tend to have used parts avalable for sale.
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will mostly be a driver, street only pretty much. this is my first mopr but my best friends dad is a mopar or die kinda guy. i was plannin on going MS3 once i figure out how to wire up thr megasquirt ecu for tuning. yes its staying EFI. im not certain if i should go stroker, or 440. i dont want a 5.9 by any means at all.
 
Old Sep 19, 2016 | 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by mopar dave
are you going to use this as a driver or a toy?
going with a turbo can be done with used parts,keeping the cost down, they are fun and are very addictive, so people tend to have used parts avalable for sale.
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What kind of power are you looking for? What trans do you have (and what kind of shape is it in), or, do you intend to upgrade that too?

You certainly have options, some are costly, some require a lot more labor, and of course some require both. Do you want to keep it FI, or would you go for having it carb'd? There are many good articles out there on increasing power in a Mopar SB, you just need to figure what you really want.
would like to run low 11s high high 10s in this truck, while being able to still enjoy driving and cruising
 
Old Sep 19, 2016 | 12:59 PM
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would like to run low 11s high high 10s in this truck, while being able to still enjoy driving and cruising
Then you better open up your pocketbook. You're looking at new engine transmission suspension et al. I've got a 420 hp magnum in mine and it might do 13secs. You'd be better off buying a syclone....that's the only truck that's going to get you to 10 secs for under 20k. You realize even 80k hellcats aren't doing 10 secs.
 
Old Sep 19, 2016 | 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by RalphP
Here's a list of what it does take, Toby:


But tell you what. If a Vortec or LS swap is so easy, why don't you do it to your truck? Show everyone that it's easier than swapping in a matching motor, transmission, and ECU.

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You should know from when I was on the Dakota groups I don't have time for my truck to be down very long. And it still takes money. Something were all usually short on. Someday, it will have one though.
 
Old Sep 19, 2016 | 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by robertmee
Then you better open up your pocketbook. You're looking at new engine transmission suspension et al. I've got a 420 hp magnum in mine and it might do 13secs. You'd be better off buying a syclone....that's the only truck that's going to get you to 10 secs for under 20k. You realize even 80k hellcats aren't doing 10 secs.
That's the hard truth. That kind of fast costs money, and for heavier vehicles even more so. If you want to run in the 10's or 11's, it'll come easier with something like the Syclone that Robertmee suggests, or if it doesn't need to be a truck, maybe a stage 3 or 4 SRT4. Oh, and Hellcats can get into the 10's, but it requires racing slicks, so add those to the $80K price tag!

You could do it with a gen 1 Dakota and a large displacement, modded motor, its just that you have to be prepared to do some serious work on it, and the engine is only the beginning. You need a trans that can handle the power, a proper rear end, suspension and tires that can get the power to the ground, a good fuel delivery system, maybe a roll bar and harness if you're going to race it. One thing will lead to another, for instance, you may find you need some big tires on the back, but you're going to need to tub the wheel wells to get them to fit. Oh yeah, fast costs money.
 
Old Sep 19, 2016 | 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by cmoser07
would like to run low 11s high high 10s in this truck, while being able to still enjoy driving and cruising
Heh.

You'll probably need one of these then:




(That's a tongue-in-cheek poke. You really need to plan ahead. Oh, you can do it ... all it takes is bunchteen of money. And if you have to ask "How Much", you probably can't afford it.)

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