so i need some advice please
Im going to try to take each of your post and try to give the best answer I can, at least IMO.
1. i have a 91 dakota with a 92 5.2 magnum swap.
so far ive cut the exhaust n cat off, went with a flowmaster and 3" exhaust.... can anyone point in the direction for used long tubes,rockers,intake setups, or even turbo kits? ive read that on stock exu and setup these can take 6-8psi boost. i dont really WANNA go turbo, but for everything id have to do for keeping it n/a would cost a lot more than a low boost application.
If the truck is 2wd and not 4wd, Hooker makes a set of headers for it. Here is a link to some on ebay. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hooker-Heade...pWV0cu&vxp=mtr .
Harland Sharp makes roller rockers. http://www.ebay.com/itm/HARLAND-SHAR...lXCVx2&vxp=mtr
On the intake, not sure if you are talking the intake manifold or something like a cold air intake.
Turbo kits, I dont know of any bolt on turbo kits available.
2.will mostly be a driver, street only pretty much. this is my first mopr but my best friends dad is a mopar or die kinda guy. i was plannin on going MS3 once i figure out how to wire up thr megasquirt ecu for tuning. yes its staying EFI. im not certain if i should go stroker, or 440. i dont want a 5.9 by any means at all.
Why have you ruled out a 5.9? Really a 5.9 is a factory bored and stroked 5.2.
3.would like to run low 11s high high 10s in this truck, while being able to still enjoy driving and cruising
Please dont take offence to what I am about to say, Im just trying to be realistic.
You ask about used headers, roller rockers, intake, etc. so I assume you are on a tight budget. (most of us are!!)
You said you have swapped out the 91 318 for a 92 318. Thats a flywheel hp jump of 170 to 230, assuming you swapped everything! (should be quite an improvement)
Did you swap the magnum fuel injection along with the 92 engine?
IMO if you install a set of long tube headers, free flowing exhaust, and a set of 1.7 roller rockers, you would probably increase the flywheel hp by an additional 20 to maybe 50 hp. But in reality you are looking at well over $1,000.00 to gain that additional hp.
If the truck was mine, and already has the 5.2 magnum in it, here is what I would do for more power.
1. EQ heads, such as magnummopar.com sells, set up for additional lift. http://magnummopar.com/eq-cylinder-h...um-v8-stage-2/
2. A new or reground cam and I would talk to them about a suggestion for your use. In my mind, keeping it "street friendly" something with 210-220 duration and about 525 lift is as much as I would go. But again, talk to the head supplier for a suggested cam for your needs.
3. If this is a 2wd truck, the hooker headers with a free flowing exhaust.
4. A higher stall converter, along with a shift kit, and probably a transmission refresh.
5. Tuning, and I have no idea what it takes to tune a 92 computer, or even if its possible.
Again, (my opinion) but with these mods you are probably looking at 300-375 flywheel hp, depending on cam selection, tune etc.
With a set of drag radials, in a otherwise stock dakota, you would be running in the 14's
IMO that is about the best you are going to get out of a stock shortblock 318 and keep it streetable.
If your serious about a street dakota going high 10's low 11's I would start by deciding if I wanted to stay mopar or switch engines.
I would look at a 6.0 LS style motor, and probably run a supercharger or turbocharger on that.
If you want to stay mopar, I would start with a 5.9, bore and stroke it to a 408 cid. (forged crank, pistons, and rods) then plan on spraying it.
Along with these mods, you will need a built transmission with a high stall converter, and probably a 4 link rear suspension.
Now, to do the above, if you dont plan to spend at least $20,000.00 I wouldnt even start it. I know that sounds high, but you can spend 5000 real quick putting a 4 link rear in the truck. A built transmission with a high quality converter will run 3-4 thousand. That leaves 11-12 thousand to build basically a race motor, and all the little things that go along with it.
Again, these are just my opinions here.
1. i have a 91 dakota with a 92 5.2 magnum swap.
so far ive cut the exhaust n cat off, went with a flowmaster and 3" exhaust.... can anyone point in the direction for used long tubes,rockers,intake setups, or even turbo kits? ive read that on stock exu and setup these can take 6-8psi boost. i dont really WANNA go turbo, but for everything id have to do for keeping it n/a would cost a lot more than a low boost application.
If the truck is 2wd and not 4wd, Hooker makes a set of headers for it. Here is a link to some on ebay. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hooker-Heade...pWV0cu&vxp=mtr .
Harland Sharp makes roller rockers. http://www.ebay.com/itm/HARLAND-SHAR...lXCVx2&vxp=mtr
On the intake, not sure if you are talking the intake manifold or something like a cold air intake.
Turbo kits, I dont know of any bolt on turbo kits available.
2.will mostly be a driver, street only pretty much. this is my first mopr but my best friends dad is a mopar or die kinda guy. i was plannin on going MS3 once i figure out how to wire up thr megasquirt ecu for tuning. yes its staying EFI. im not certain if i should go stroker, or 440. i dont want a 5.9 by any means at all.
Why have you ruled out a 5.9? Really a 5.9 is a factory bored and stroked 5.2.
3.would like to run low 11s high high 10s in this truck, while being able to still enjoy driving and cruising
Please dont take offence to what I am about to say, Im just trying to be realistic.
You ask about used headers, roller rockers, intake, etc. so I assume you are on a tight budget. (most of us are!!)
You said you have swapped out the 91 318 for a 92 318. Thats a flywheel hp jump of 170 to 230, assuming you swapped everything! (should be quite an improvement)
Did you swap the magnum fuel injection along with the 92 engine?
IMO if you install a set of long tube headers, free flowing exhaust, and a set of 1.7 roller rockers, you would probably increase the flywheel hp by an additional 20 to maybe 50 hp. But in reality you are looking at well over $1,000.00 to gain that additional hp.
If the truck was mine, and already has the 5.2 magnum in it, here is what I would do for more power.
1. EQ heads, such as magnummopar.com sells, set up for additional lift. http://magnummopar.com/eq-cylinder-h...um-v8-stage-2/
2. A new or reground cam and I would talk to them about a suggestion for your use. In my mind, keeping it "street friendly" something with 210-220 duration and about 525 lift is as much as I would go. But again, talk to the head supplier for a suggested cam for your needs.
3. If this is a 2wd truck, the hooker headers with a free flowing exhaust.
4. A higher stall converter, along with a shift kit, and probably a transmission refresh.
5. Tuning, and I have no idea what it takes to tune a 92 computer, or even if its possible.
Again, (my opinion) but with these mods you are probably looking at 300-375 flywheel hp, depending on cam selection, tune etc.
With a set of drag radials, in a otherwise stock dakota, you would be running in the 14's
IMO that is about the best you are going to get out of a stock shortblock 318 and keep it streetable.
If your serious about a street dakota going high 10's low 11's I would start by deciding if I wanted to stay mopar or switch engines.
I would look at a 6.0 LS style motor, and probably run a supercharger or turbocharger on that.
If you want to stay mopar, I would start with a 5.9, bore and stroke it to a 408 cid. (forged crank, pistons, and rods) then plan on spraying it.
Along with these mods, you will need a built transmission with a high stall converter, and probably a 4 link rear suspension.
Now, to do the above, if you dont plan to spend at least $20,000.00 I wouldnt even start it. I know that sounds high, but you can spend 5000 real quick putting a 4 link rear in the truck. A built transmission with a high quality converter will run 3-4 thousand. That leaves 11-12 thousand to build basically a race motor, and all the little things that go along with it.
Again, these are just my opinions here.
Twin turbo kit...
http://www.sd-concepts.com/pages/cfTurboDakotaRT.cfm
Base kit is $5,218.02!!! Note that it's in a 99(OBD2).
Here is a 95 single turbo(back yard engineered) running the megasquirt controller.
http://www.sd-concepts.com/pages/cfTurboDakotaRT.cfm
Base kit is $5,218.02!!! Note that it's in a 99(OBD2).
Here is a 95 single turbo(back yard engineered) running the megasquirt controller.
Twin turbo kit...
http://www.sd-concepts.com/pages/cfTurboDakotaRT.cfm
Base kit is $5,218.02!!! Note that it's in a 99(OBD2).
Here is a 95 single turbo(back yard engineered) running the megasquirt controller.
Turbo 95 V8 Dakota Walk Around - YouTube
http://www.sd-concepts.com/pages/cfTurboDakotaRT.cfm
Base kit is $5,218.02!!! Note that it's in a 99(OBD2).
Here is a 95 single turbo(back yard engineered) running the megasquirt controller.
Turbo 95 V8 Dakota Walk Around - YouTube
For 5200 you could do the vortec swap and EASILY have 575hp considering a 6.0 vortec has an option for 400hp stock. Get a good tune, exhaust, headers that right there is probably 575. AND you'll still get the same mpg you get now or BETTER
You should become a salesmen for vortecc engines.
Agreed! He is going to need more than just an engine or mods to it. There was another video i was watching that had twin turbo's and it had a nice cam lope that was doing mid 11's. No info on what kind of boost he was using.
That kit is pretty cool...but even that only got him to mid 12 secs. At 575 hp for mid 12s that's going to be near 800hp to get to 10s.
You should become a salesmen for vortecc engines.
Agreed! He is going to need more than just an engine or mods to it. There was another video i was watching that had twin turbo's and it had a nice cam lope that was doing mid 11's. No info on what kind of boost he was using.
Agreed! He is going to need more than just an engine or mods to it. There was another video i was watching that had twin turbo's and it had a nice cam lope that was doing mid 11's. No info on what kind of boost he was using.
Again, I'm not hating on the magnums. They're reliable as can be, but as far as trying to build something out of them, might as well **** in the wind. Then **** on your money. Its about the same effect.
500 HP is 500hp.(or whatever number you're going for) No one else cares if you spent $2500 to get there or $5000 to get there, just you and your wallet.
There would be a lot of advantages to the LS series motors. I really gave a lot of thought to putting one in mine. What I was considering was a nv3500 out of a blazer, the 4.8 flywheel, clutch assy, and a 5.3 engine.
The pro's for this swap (IMO) are.
1. 6 bolt main, factory bottom end is very strong.
2. factory alum. heads
3. abundance of aftermarket support.
4. If I decided to change cams etc. there are lots of sources and options for tuning at a reasonable price.
5. The engine is about 2in. shorter then the magnum. And for 87-90 that a big deal.
6. Motormount plates are available for $100.00
7. Cross member mod is simple
Things I never found out.
1. Will a NV3500 (GM design) work? ie. does shifter come out in same spot?
2. Will the hyd. clutch cyl. work without a lot of fab work?
3. Speedometer? mine is mechanical
4. Transfer case. Even though a 231 was used in GM products, will it bolt up?
5. Speedometer hook up as well as speed sensor for the computor?
6. Driveshafts?
In the end, I decided to go 5.9, nv3500, 231 transfer, carb, and HEI. Im trying to keep it as simple as possible. I dont want to start a project that last 5 years and cost way more then I planned.
For those that do have an interest in putting a LS motor in a dakota may want to look at this site. http://lsdak.com/
The pro's for this swap (IMO) are.
1. 6 bolt main, factory bottom end is very strong.
2. factory alum. heads
3. abundance of aftermarket support.
4. If I decided to change cams etc. there are lots of sources and options for tuning at a reasonable price.
5. The engine is about 2in. shorter then the magnum. And for 87-90 that a big deal.
6. Motormount plates are available for $100.00
7. Cross member mod is simple
Things I never found out.
1. Will a NV3500 (GM design) work? ie. does shifter come out in same spot?
2. Will the hyd. clutch cyl. work without a lot of fab work?
3. Speedometer? mine is mechanical
4. Transfer case. Even though a 231 was used in GM products, will it bolt up?
5. Speedometer hook up as well as speed sensor for the computor?
6. Driveshafts?
In the end, I decided to go 5.9, nv3500, 231 transfer, carb, and HEI. Im trying to keep it as simple as possible. I dont want to start a project that last 5 years and cost way more then I planned.
For those that do have an interest in putting a LS motor in a dakota may want to look at this site. http://lsdak.com/
You should become a salesmen for vortecc engines.
Agreed! He is going to need more than just an engine or mods to it. There was another video i was watching that had twin turbo's and it had a nice cam lope that was doing mid 11's. No info on what kind of boost he was using.
Agreed! He is going to need more than just an engine or mods to it. There was another video i was watching that had twin turbo's and it had a nice cam lope that was doing mid 11's. No info on what kind of boost he was using.
Actually a trap speed of 120 mph would very easy put him in the mid 11's or a little better if the rest of the truck is optimized. ie. drag radials, converter, suspension, etc.
But dont think you can take a stock 5.9, throw a set of turbos on it and make that kind of power. How many stock 5.9 do you see making power to 6,000 rpms
Actually a trap speed of 120 mph would very easy put him in the mid 11's or a little better if the rest of the truck is optimized. ie. drag radials, converter, suspension, etc.
But dont think you can take a stock 5.9, throw a set of turbos on it and make that kind of power. How many stock 5.9 do you see making power to 6,000 rpms
if you want a silly assed LS motor cookie cutter POS, BUY A FREAKING S10 to put it into!!! and take a hike..... see ya later










