1st Gen Dakota Tech 1987 - 1996 Dodge Dakota Tech - The ultimate forum for technical help on the 1st Gen Dakota.

Rear Creaking Noise

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Apr 26, 2017 | 06:09 PM
  #1  
robertmee's Avatar
robertmee
Thread Starter
|
Record Breaker
Joined: Aug 2013
Posts: 1,033
Likes: 1
Default Rear Creaking Noise

Took the 90 Vert for its maiden voyage today! Just around the neighborhood, but got it above 2000 RPM's and it shifted great.

As you know, I've replaced shocks, brakes (complete overhaul), u-joints, axle bearings, new differential fluid, et al. But Ive got this loud creaking sound coming from the rear at low speeds when letting off the accelerator. Under acceleration or normal driving, all sounds fine. So, my assumption is, when the engine is driving the rear, no sound, but when the rear is driving the transmission (engine braking), I'm getting this creaking sound...it almost sounds like someone bouncing on a car with bad shocks.

Thoughts?
 
Reply
Old Apr 27, 2017 | 12:47 AM
  #2  
ragged89's Avatar
ragged89
All Star
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 752
Likes: 2
From: Southeastern Virginia
Default

What is the frequency of the creaking, I mean, does it coincide with driveshaft speed (a dry u-joint, driveshaft rubbing on parking brake cable, pinion bearing), tire speed (brake drum rubbing on shoe or dislodged "anti-rattle" spring), or something else, like a leaf spring part?

Slow freq I might associate with a wheel, faster freq maybe driveshaft, trans, or diff noise. If it's more like a temporary noise that quickly goes away, then maybe suspension or a body part rubbing.

Noises like that can be a b****. I had a creak coming from the front end after I got my truck back on the road; turned out to be the left front fender bolts at the bottom of the fender - both loose. It was intermittent, but more noticeable on rougher roads.
 
Reply
Old Apr 27, 2017 | 06:49 AM
  #3  
93 ragtop's Avatar
93 ragtop
Record Breaker
10 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Liked
Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 1,852
Likes: 109
From: Va
Default

I had a brake adjuster cable break inside of the drivers side drum. It would make a scraping squealing sound at times. It was at low speeds and more in reverse. If you dont see something obvious, I would jack it up and have someone put it in drive while you listen outside the vehicle.
 
Reply
Old Apr 27, 2017 | 08:17 AM
  #4  
RalphP's Avatar
RalphP
Champion
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 4,737
Likes: 374
From: Northwest Louisiana
Default

One thing I think of that's frightening - is a, or more than one, loose U-bolt holding the springs to the axle.

Try what Ragged89 suggests, and 93_ragtop, to verify it's not something else.

I'd also check the torque on the U-bolts for your cousin, Justin Case. He's funny about things like that.

RwP
 
Reply
Old Apr 27, 2017 | 08:27 AM
  #5  
robertmee's Avatar
robertmee
Thread Starter
|
Record Breaker
Joined: Aug 2013
Posts: 1,033
Likes: 1
Default

Originally Posted by ragged89
What is the frequency of the creaking, I mean, does it coincide with driveshaft speed (a dry u-joint, driveshaft rubbing on parking brake cable, pinion bearing), tire speed (brake drum rubbing on shoe or dislodged "anti-rattle" spring), or something else, like a leaf spring part?

Slow freq I might associate with a wheel, faster freq maybe driveshaft, trans, or diff noise. If it's more like a temporary noise that quickly goes away, then maybe suspension or a body part rubbing.

Noises like that can be a b****. I had a creak coming from the front end after I got my truck back on the road; turned out to be the left front fender bolts at the bottom of the fender - both loose. It was intermittent, but more noticeable on rougher roads.
It's definitely at a slow wheel rate....So differential, axle, hubs or brakes I suppose. It goes away upon acceleration or normal driving...only seems to appear forward or reverse when releasing the accelerator.
 
Reply
Old Apr 27, 2017 | 08:29 AM
  #6  
robertmee's Avatar
robertmee
Thread Starter
|
Record Breaker
Joined: Aug 2013
Posts: 1,033
Likes: 1
Default

Originally Posted by 93 ragtop
I had a brake adjuster cable break inside of the drivers side drum. It would make a scraping squealing sound at times. It was at low speeds and more in reverse. If you dont see something obvious, I would jack it up and have someone put it in drive while you listen outside the vehicle.
Yes, I plan to put it on the lift and test again today...I did that the other day and heard nothing, but it was a quick test at low RPM. I'll try more thorough tests today.
 
Reply
Old Apr 27, 2017 | 08:30 AM
  #7  
robertmee's Avatar
robertmee
Thread Starter
|
Record Breaker
Joined: Aug 2013
Posts: 1,033
Likes: 1
Default

Originally Posted by RalphP
One thing I think of that's frightening - is a, or more than one, loose U-bolt holding the springs to the axle.

Try what Ragged89 suggests, and 93_ragtop, to verify it's not something else.

I'd also check the torque on the U-bolts for your cousin, Justin Case. He's funny about things like that.

RwP
Thanks for the suggestions Ralph....I didn't touch the spring U-bolts so I never checked them...good idea to give them a once over. A shop put the U-joints on the drive shaft for me, so something else to look at.
 
Reply
Old Apr 27, 2017 | 05:46 PM
  #8  
robertmee's Avatar
robertmee
Thread Starter
|
Record Breaker
Joined: Aug 2013
Posts: 1,033
Likes: 1
Default

Well, I raised the truck a foot in the air and no noise, all the way up to 60 mph...Have to admit, even with the truck securely on my lift, I had visions of me sitting in the truck and it falling off the lift at 60 mph! Not fun!!

So, I raised her on up and started jerking on everything. I found one loose shock bolt, but then I found this...I think I found my squeak. Evidently, the drive shaft under deceleration and under load with the wheels on the ground shifts up enough just to rub the gas tank shield.


 
Reply
Old Apr 27, 2017 | 06:50 PM
  #9  
ragged89's Avatar
ragged89
All Star
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 752
Likes: 2
From: Southeastern Virginia
Default

Nice racing stripe around the drive shaft! Better something like that than a differential problem I reckon'.
 
Reply




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:40 PM.