No, I think I was just expecting them to show up right away. I found out that they didn't show up until I sent the post. go figure.
Also , I just disconnected the three pin transmission connector to see if maybe the AT lockup was somehow causing the problem.
Now the starter will not engage. Why would unplugging the OD cause some kind of starter lockout? Crap!

 

Probably the wrong three pin connector. The one up by the shift linkage is for the neutral safety switch, and that's why it won't start now. The one you want is above the valve body of the trans, about halfway back, on the drivers side. Plugs straight down into the top of the valve body.

 

well I think I unplug the right one. It went into the trans . I thought the neutral safy switch was a mechanical switch on the linkage. If goes into the tranny maybe I did take the wrong one off. That would make sense that I unplugged the wrong one. I will search again. I am looking stupider and stupider

 

HeyYou, your were right I did unplug the neutral safety switch. I found the OD plug, as you said it was hidden above the throttle body. Thanks
Anyway I did my test and still had the problem. The interesting thing after playing around with it, I found that if kept the brake on and reved to about 1800 RPM the engine was killed.
It will not do this in Drive just Reverse. So it seems to me that so how in Reverse the OD locks up and kills the engine. If it is doing this it is purely mechanical . Anybody heard of this?

 

Well my 98 Durango has got a 5.2 but ive got the same map sensor as you do. Long story short, i put my old V6 map sensor on this durango so that i could keep the warranty xp. Well it would stall when put into reverse and eventually started doing the whole rpm dance at idle. I wiggled some connectors ,when i got to the Map, it smoothed out if i held it in a certain way. I disconnected the sensor and took out the red center piece, revealing the terminals. I took some needle nose pliers and pressed on the terminals slightly. Hasnt stalled since,

 

I was unable to find a solid conversation that explained this situation and a good resolution. My truck does it in R & D range, and I turn off the OD when I get into town. At a stop light with OD off it will either pull the engine rpm way down to the point of the oil pressure light flickering (until I manually bring rpm up) and in R it will push so hard to move the truck you have to constantly apply brake. If you shift from R to neutral the engine rpm rise to 2500 before settling back down to idle.

This condition with reverse explains now why the driveshaft balance was so messed up on this truck, the trans was forever torquing the driveshaft when it was in reverse unless you unloaded into neutral first.

I am actually suspecting that my condition is torque converter, although the po stated it had been overhauled and that suggests new TC unless the owner cheaped out and AAMCO let them specify that.

Steve

 

I'd say torque converter also, with the bog at idle.

It could be the torque converter lockup solenoid also; that would cause the same effect.

RwP