1st Gen Dakota Tech 1987 - 1996 Dodge Dakota Tech - The ultimate forum for technical help on the 1st Gen Dakota.

HELP! whistling noise from engine on acceleration

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Apr 11, 2021 | 08:27 PM
  #1  
Michael M1911's Avatar
Michael M1911
Thread Starter
|
Registered User
Joined: Apr 2021
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
Default HELP! whistling noise from engine on acceleration

I have a 1995 dakota 3.9 v6 magnum standard cab. My distributor cap went bad and she started backfiring bad. Got that taken care of. Now I've lost all power and its making this high pitched whistle only when I accelerate. Idles fine every now and then she'll stutter but hasn't stalled. I've narrowed it down to the left side around the exhaust manifold. I csnt find any kind of vacuum leake or really tell what it is. I'm smelling alot of exhaust up front and in the cab so I'm guessing the manifold gasket. I went out and got a pair, but before I get wrenching through the night I fugired I'd post up and hope somebody can help me determine the exact cause before I mess things up.
 
Reply
Old Apr 11, 2021 | 08:41 PM
  #2  
RalphP's Avatar
RalphP
Champion
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 4,737
Likes: 374
From: Northwest Louisiana
Default

It may well be the exhaust manifold for the whistling; but I'd also be looking for a broken vacuum line somewhere, due to the stuttering.

(Actually, on a 1995, the hoses are possibly 26 years old; I'd be replacing for your cousin and mine, Justin Case, to prevent vacuum leaks.)

And on the "lost all power" - if the cat's plugged, you may easily be blowing back through the EGR or even any weak spot in the exhaust.

For a quick test, do this.

With the motor cold, pull the O2 sensor. Just tape it up or ziptie it to the frame.

Start the truck, see if the power comes back. Oh, it'll be noisy with that hole in the exhaust, but it's a quick test to see if the exhaust system is plugged.

If it's been burning oil, I'll just about guarantee it's plugged at the cat by now ...

That's a few things to check.

RwP
 
Reply
Old Apr 12, 2021 | 08:44 AM
  #3  
Michael M1911's Avatar
Michael M1911
Thread Starter
|
Registered User
Joined: Apr 2021
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by RalphP
It may well be the exhaust manifold for the whistling; but I'd also be looking for a broken vacuum line somewhere, due to the stuttering.

(Actually, on a 1995, the hoses are possibly 26 years old; I'd be replacing for your cousin and mine, Justin Case, to prevent vacuum leaks.)

And on the "lost all power" - if the cat's plugged, you may easily be blowing back through the EGR or even any weak spot in the exhaust.

For a quick test, do this.

With the motor cold, pull the O2 sensor. Just tape it up or ziptie it to the frame.

Start the truck, see if the power comes back. Oh, it'll be noisy with that hole in the exhaust, but it's a quick test to see if the exhaust system is plugged.

If it's been burning oil, I'll just about guarantee it's plugged at the cat by now ...

That's a few things to check.

RwP
I keep thinking vacuum leak but can't find one for the life of me. The cat i don't think is plugged, I have full exhaust coming out of the tail pipe still. But I'll definitely give that a go. Ill post the video or link it in. Shes never burned oil. The older gentleman I got it from 4 weeks ago kept very good to the maintenance schedule. Everything was fine before that backfiring started. And that was all through the exhaust. Which is what has me thinking if the rest is OK it has to be either the manifold or where the exhaust hooks up to the manifold.
 
Reply
Old Apr 12, 2021 | 08:46 AM
  #4  
Michael M1911's Avatar
Michael M1911
Thread Starter
|
Registered User
Joined: Apr 2021
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
Default

 
Reply
Old Apr 12, 2021 | 11:44 AM
  #5  
Michael M1911's Avatar
Michael M1911
Thread Starter
|
Registered User
Joined: Apr 2021
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
Default

So, thinking the cat is actually clogged. At napa now getting a new cat. Will update if she works.
 
Reply
Old Apr 12, 2021 | 03:06 PM
  #6  
jkeaton's Avatar
jkeaton
DF Admin
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Liked
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 28,190
Likes: 362
From: Winston Salem, NC
Default

Originally Posted by Michael M1911
So, thinking the cat is actually clogged. At napa now getting a new cat. Will update if she works.
So did you remove the o2 sensor as suggested to test or are you just going to throw parts at it until it's fixed?
 
Reply
Old Apr 14, 2021 | 08:59 AM
  #7  
Michael M1911's Avatar
Michael M1911
Thread Starter
|
Registered User
Joined: Apr 2021
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
Default

I did remove the o2 sensor. Cat was the issue. Replaced and she's perfect again.
 
Reply
Old Apr 14, 2021 | 09:01 AM
  #8  
Michael M1911's Avatar
Michael M1911
Thread Starter
|
Registered User
Joined: Apr 2021
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
Default



 
Reply
Old Apr 14, 2021 | 09:24 AM
  #9  
Zebraitis's Avatar
Zebraitis
Registered User
Joined: Mar 2021
Posts: 22
Likes: 3
Default

The most expensive charcoal briquettes you will ever see!
 
Reply
Old Apr 16, 2021 | 09:54 AM
  #10  
Zebraitis's Avatar
Zebraitis
Registered User
Joined: Mar 2021
Posts: 22
Likes: 3
Default

Originally Posted by Zebraitis
The most expensive charcoal briquettes you will ever see!
One last comment that I want to make on this, from my experience with a cat and a Toyota Celica convertible:

1) Catalytic converters are very expensive because they use rare metals. To maximize the surface area of these rare metals, they are spayed on a grid system (like you saw above, except not broken) that the exhaust gasses must pass. This grid system gets heated to very high temps during use and the idea is that anything that is supertoxic will be burned up as it passes through it. (the catalyst - the rare metals- coverts the toxins in the exhaust.) The O2 Sensor checks to see how well that is happening and provides feedback to the engine.

2) Failures of catalytic converters often happen when the engine starts to burn oil. The oil gets on that grid system and the system gets overwhelmed. The system ends up overheating that grid system, failure, and the results are a cat full of those briquettes.

3) Like most things, if you don't fix the real problem (likely engine burning oil) then the problem (burned out cat) will return.

As with most comments on the internet, I may be wrong, you may not be burning oil and everything may be OK, and the cat just failed after 30 years of service. but if you are looking at another catalytic converter in 6 months, you may know why.
 
Reply



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:09 AM.