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When you pull your sample, it is best to drive the vehicle until hot and while parked and cooling back off, drain the oil from a warm engine and pull your sample warm from directly from the flow.

If you drain your oil cold, mention that on your form when you send it in. Blackstone will account for that.

On the using a "jar until the kit shows up" scenario, make sure the jar is clean and nothing is in it. Any solvent, soap residue, etc will certainly show up in the chemical testing.
 
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Amsoil isn't "That" good in my honest opinion. It is just a simple POA oil base is the same as Mobil One Fully Synthetic. Ever wonder why 70% of NASCAR uses Mobil One, well now you know!!!!

Remember they are all Federally Regulated and they all must hit the regulations, however Mobil One is usually the first ones to hit the new regulations just as they come out. It's your engine, but I have personally done a engine break down and mic tests to validate Mobil's claims, and they were right!

10k miles on American Fully Synthetic......LOL, there is no way I would run that, and there is really no way in hell I would run it 25k mile intervals!!! When I did the engine brake down test I used an engine with 30k on it and I switched it over to Mobil Fully Synthetic. I changed the oil at 7500 mile intervals for 70k for a total of 100k and broke it down with zero ware, yes that was nodda, none, the thing mic'ed brand new and still had the hone marks in the cylinders!

In my trucks I always change my oil at 5000 miles, even after towing, dust, hwy, and hard driving. I mainly use it for towing and just around town to keep it lubricated. I also do the same in my car, however I can go to 7500 miles and that gives me some time if I need just as Indy stated, but I try to just do them at the same intervals. My truck only had about 4k put on it this year so I changed it because of shear time, however it did do a 2300 mile tow during August to California. Regardless, I changed it at the 4K interval and it was dark.
 
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Got ya hydra.I can't afford it anyway(2 trucks,my Virago and boat to winterize),just curious IF it's as good as said to be.Prolly is.I have to re do my top end and look closer at threst anyway,last time tied synth I had leaks and thought I was all f'ed up until you explained it,changed back to dino and I was fine,have a little work to do is all then stayin mobile1...I am however curious to find out who actually makes Peak's fully synth and Advance's store brand and if they suck or not...ONLY curious. Also,I (like many here)won't ever run that long tween changes,no matter what they say it's too long to NOT have a look,smell,feel..you know,you don't run it that long either

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hrmm, may not have liked the artice but at least I started a decent thread
That's what it's all about man,we get a chance to run through and look at things,sometimes you get to walk away with new info,can't be anything but good,hence Forum\Discussion Group

DUmped this morn after I took my son in,saved in a CLEAN container,maybe 6oz or so.After all this I can't wait to see what I'm up against,even if it's just the marking point and all is ok.Trucks new to me and after seeing what's been done I don't trust anything the p/o said or his idiot tech(so called) did.Came to me with about $1100 in new installed parts and EVERYTHING he touched was still screwed.Thanks to YOU guys here,it's gonna be with me for a long time...TY to all of you for answering me and advising...Wouldn't be driving everyday with your help
 
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Well this has been interesting, I may have mine tested after this next change and post results. This has been a great thread hashing out all the advantages of synthetics though. Just went on blackstones website. $25 is cheap, that is well worth the money, I thought it was more. I will have it tested then since I just did my oil I'm gonna have to wait awhile. Either way mobile 1 and amsoil are some of the best oils out there.
 

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The only problem I have is that to get a "Fully" correct read you have to have comparison test (control). For instance, each oil brand and type is a bit different, so to get an accurate test one should have the clean oil tested and also the dirty oil tested, then you compare the results as to what is worn.

But if you don't switch oils then I would say around every year or so you should test the control again from the bottle you are going to use in the engine. See, they change them from time to time so just one control test won't always give you what you want. If you switch oils then there is no comparison and will show false results.

Peak's fully synthetic<--- Is made by Old World Industries, Inc. Northbrook, IL 60062 phone 800.323.5440

Looks like the regular has a Mineral Oil added, and the Fully Synthetic does not state whether it is Hydro-crack or POA, with that said I would bet it is a simple Hydro-Crack synthetic. http://www.peakauto.com/motor_oil-pe...ynthetic.shtml

Advance Oil is made by Warren-Unilube. http://www.warrenunilube.com/
 
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The lab already knows what the baselines are. That is why you tell them what oil and weight you are using. If you were going it alone, some comparison test would be needed. Not so when you use a lab that tests thousands of samples a month. They have been there, done that.

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Originally Posted by laz45
Got ya hydra.I can't afford it anyway(2 trucks,my Virago and boat to winterize),just curious IF it's as good as said to be.Prolly is.I have to re do my top end and look closer at threst anyway,last time tied synth I had leaks and thought I was all f'ed up until you explained it,changed back to dino and I was fine,have a little work to do is all then stayin mobile1...I am however curious to find out who actually makes Peak's fully synth and Advance's store brand and if they suck or not...ONLY curious. Also,I (like many here)won't ever run that long tween changes,no matter what they say it's too long to NOT have a look,smell,feel..you know,you don't run it that long either

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That's what it's all about man,we get a chance to run through and look at things,sometimes you get to walk away with new info,can't be anything but good,hence Forum\Discussion Group

DUmped this morn after I took my son in,saved in a CLEAN container,maybe 6oz or so.After all this I can't wait to see what I'm up against,even if it's just the marking point and all is ok.Trucks new to me and after seeing what's been done I don't trust anything the p/o said or his idiot tech(so called) did.Came to me with about $1100 in new installed parts and EVERYTHING he touched was still screwed.Thanks to YOU guys here,it's gonna be with me for a long time...TY to all of you for answering me and advising...Wouldn't be driving everyday with your help
I had to re-read virago a few times, I thought it said Viagra. I was a little confused how viagra could make you broke haha.
 
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Originally Posted by Blind Monkey
I was a little confused how viagra could make you broke haha.
It's not that hard.......to see how viagra could make you broke.

Oh, sounds like a "thats what she said" moment............
 
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BAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA !!!!!! That's the running joke here. I'll get a text like " Jump on your hard on,let's go for a ride" from 1 of my friends....I catch it everytime...
It is a that's what she said.....too funny

Awesome Hydra,thanks for posting,I looked around the unilube site,it says their synth is a blend of synthetic and high viscosity group II mineral oils.....that's exactly what you say to watch out for right? Also,whether it's Advances store,or Autozones Coastal,I know now that they're the same....well,the same company so I bet the same blend....curiosity only,Mobile1 is my choice....
Question,indy and hydra,I'm gonna have the dino I just changed out tested just so I don't miss the opportunity,(1st change since I own it),but considering I'm making the switch to synth I should probably send in a sample from my next change also since it's a different oil type right? I know they take baseline and oil type info.My thoughts correct on that?
 


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