Road Trip!
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From: Bismarck, ND
. Yeah when is the trip public? Sounds fun at least.
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Trip is May 12th to the 19th.
And fords aren’t bad. My 2012 fusion is put together solid. Tho I only have 2k miles on it this year.. awesome fun car to drive though.
Further more I had my Bronco sitting next to my Durango for a few years. Loved both trucks..
Thing you guys fail to remember is that new cars aren’t built like older vehicles. Maybe because I see more crashes than you all, but I’d rather be in a new car than a 98 dodge ram. Or even my 89 Bronco.
And to be fair.. our 2012 Ram 2500 interior rattles more than my fusion or Durango.. Sits with about 15k miles on it now.
Sure the “bragging rights” of a scratch vs caved in new car in an auto accident are great.. the forces applied to the human body in either vehicle differ greatly.
New vehicles crumple to absorb the impact of a collision. Older vehicles are meer bricks just hitting other **** and that force is divided against all objects in and on the vehicle.
I’d rather replace my crumpled car over being hit in a brick (I was t-boned by a semi in an F250. F250 needed a new rear door and side of bed. Semi truck was totaled..). I now have a slightly messed up shoulder.
This picture shows the F250 I was in flipped 180 degrees. I was in the pass seat. Traveling about 40 mph, semi truck was coming out of a parking lot (speed unkown, clearly didn’t stop)
And fords aren’t bad. My 2012 fusion is put together solid. Tho I only have 2k miles on it this year.. awesome fun car to drive though.
Further more I had my Bronco sitting next to my Durango for a few years. Loved both trucks..
Thing you guys fail to remember is that new cars aren’t built like older vehicles. Maybe because I see more crashes than you all, but I’d rather be in a new car than a 98 dodge ram. Or even my 89 Bronco.
And to be fair.. our 2012 Ram 2500 interior rattles more than my fusion or Durango.. Sits with about 15k miles on it now.
Sure the “bragging rights” of a scratch vs caved in new car in an auto accident are great.. the forces applied to the human body in either vehicle differ greatly.
New vehicles crumple to absorb the impact of a collision. Older vehicles are meer bricks just hitting other **** and that force is divided against all objects in and on the vehicle.
I’d rather replace my crumpled car over being hit in a brick (I was t-boned by a semi in an F250. F250 needed a new rear door and side of bed. Semi truck was totaled..). I now have a slightly messed up shoulder.
This picture shows the F250 I was in flipped 180 degrees. I was in the pass seat. Traveling about 40 mph, semi truck was coming out of a parking lot (speed unkown, clearly didn’t stop)
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You mean it's made out of plastic if you call that "solid".
If you were in a plastic car you would have been rolled up drivers side door down and smashed on that T-bone, seen it a few times ya know. I mean complaining about a sore shoulder that you haven't needed surgically fixed after a T-bone with a semi that was "supposed" to have totaled a Commercial $80K truck is down right whining.
Of course modern day vehicles are built to take on damage to lower the actual impact, however something you don't take into count is it's mainly that because the Federal Government industry them to lighten the vehicles so they also could get better fuel mileage, to meet the guidelines they set. So let me say this, I would rather hit a 1200 lbs moose with my truck and slam it brick solid then have it cut through my vehicle and kill me which is what could happen to you.
There is a balance between made too accident forgiveness and not enough, your Fusion is in the not enough category. Sorry to tell you that those large steal built big rigs and trucks still roam the new truck lots, so they will still be involved in accidents and you will die before they will.
If you were in a plastic car you would have been rolled up drivers side door down and smashed on that T-bone, seen it a few times ya know. I mean complaining about a sore shoulder that you haven't needed surgically fixed after a T-bone with a semi that was "supposed" to have totaled a Commercial $80K truck is down right whining.
Of course modern day vehicles are built to take on damage to lower the actual impact, however something you don't take into count is it's mainly that because the Federal Government industry them to lighten the vehicles so they also could get better fuel mileage, to meet the guidelines they set. So let me say this, I would rather hit a 1200 lbs moose with my truck and slam it brick solid then have it cut through my vehicle and kill me which is what could happen to you.
There is a balance between made too accident forgiveness and not enough, your Fusion is in the not enough category. Sorry to tell you that those large steal built big rigs and trucks still roam the new truck lots, so they will still be involved in accidents and you will die before they will.
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You mean it's made out of plastic if you call that "solid".
If you were in a plastic car you would have been rolled up drivers side door down and smashed on that T-bone, seen it a few times ya know. I mean complaining about a sore shoulder that you haven't needed surgically fixed after a T-bone with a semi that was "supposed" to have totaled a Commercial $80K truck is down right whining.
Of course modern day vehicles are built to take on damage to lower the actual impact, however something you don't take into count is it's mainly that because the Federal Government industry them to lighten the vehicles so they also could get better fuel mileage, to meet the guidelines they set. So let me say this, I would rather hit a 1200 lbs moose with my truck and slam it brick solid then have it cut through my vehicle and kill me which is what could happen to you.
There is a balance between made too accident forgiveness and not enough, your Fusion is in the not enough category. Sorry to tell you that those large steal built big rigs and trucks still roam the new truck lots, so they will still be involved in accidents and you will die before they will.
If you were in a plastic car you would have been rolled up drivers side door down and smashed on that T-bone, seen it a few times ya know. I mean complaining about a sore shoulder that you haven't needed surgically fixed after a T-bone with a semi that was "supposed" to have totaled a Commercial $80K truck is down right whining.
Of course modern day vehicles are built to take on damage to lower the actual impact, however something you don't take into count is it's mainly that because the Federal Government industry them to lighten the vehicles so they also could get better fuel mileage, to meet the guidelines they set. So let me say this, I would rather hit a 1200 lbs moose with my truck and slam it brick solid then have it cut through my vehicle and kill me which is what could happen to you.
There is a balance between made too accident forgiveness and not enough, your Fusion is in the not enough category. Sorry to tell you that those large steal built big rigs and trucks still roam the new truck lots, so they will still be involved in accidents and you will die before they will.
Wow, My fusion out beats our 2012 Ram (2500..you know, BIG STEEL!)
Wow, my fusion out beats our durango.
Wow, the ford explorer I'm looking at out beats all listed.
End of the day, I guess me being first on scene to vehicle accidents is purely no match for your online trolling.. er I mean knowledge.
http://www.safercar.gov/Vehicle+Shop...vehicleId=6418
http://www.safercar.gov/Vehicle+Shop...vehicleId=4209
http://www.safercar.gov/Vehicle+Shop...vehicleId=6596
http://www.safercar.gov/Vehicle+Shop...vehicleId=8249
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I work at a dealership, in the back of the body shop. My friends work in body shops, my brother does, I have seen enough to know there is more involved than those tests. Hey more power to them, at least I'll be safe being hit by something softer.
In all seriousness the numbers that engineers and safety people look at is the amount of time the force is applied. This determines G-force. So as the vehicle crumples the time increases exponentially decreasing the G-force. Now the issue is when you have a moving collision the heavier vehicle, especially any truck on a frame, usually "wins" because its kinetic energy is much greater at the same speed and since it doesn't crumple as bad those passengers are usually safer. Also the change in speed (momentum change) is greater for the smaller vehicle. **In the end we all will drive what we want.**
Public you can agree its not fair to expect a dodge forum to sit by and not respond to pro ford posts?
In all seriousness the numbers that engineers and safety people look at is the amount of time the force is applied. This determines G-force. So as the vehicle crumples the time increases exponentially decreasing the G-force. Now the issue is when you have a moving collision the heavier vehicle, especially any truck on a frame, usually "wins" because its kinetic energy is much greater at the same speed and since it doesn't crumple as bad those passengers are usually safer. Also the change in speed (momentum change) is greater for the smaller vehicle. **In the end we all will drive what we want.**
Public you can agree its not fair to expect a dodge forum to sit by and not respond to pro ford posts?
