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Old Mar 18, 2019 | 11:14 PM
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My Magnum 5.9L started jerking randomly at idle and up to 1500RPM. It gets worse on hot (actually, regular - 180-190 degrees) engine. Spark plugs and wires have been replaced already - no change.
Run with another PCM/ECU - still jerks.
Engine jerk followed by a more intense exhaust. No stalling so far

What's going on?
 
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Old Mar 19, 2019 | 07:44 AM
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Check for vacuum leaks.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2019 | 12:37 PM
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Don't have a manometer to measure an exact pressure. But
a) I moved/shook all vacuum hoses on hot engine to replicate those jerks - no success.
b) Disconnected a vacuum hose to check the air flow - it sucks
c) also the engine idle RPM increases from 600 to 1000 and jerks became more visible.

I would say that jerks become more frequent and occur at lower engine temperatures as it was before (but the weather gets warmer as well).
 
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Old Mar 21, 2019 | 12:53 PM
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The next free and easy thing I'd do is pull and clean the throttle body, and make sure the idle-air stepping motor passageway is clean.
 
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Old Mar 23, 2019 | 08:59 PM
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Cleaned the throttle body (is wasn't bad, actually). Found 2 gaskets cracked: between the throttle body and engine and the throttle body and air intake. Are they critical?
Also found that a hose fitting adapter, (the hose from an air intake to the left cylinder head cover) is a little bit loose, but wiggling of this adapter does not change anything.

Overall - the problem still exists, no changes at all.
 
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Old Mar 24, 2019 | 11:10 AM
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Check for vacuum leaks.
Did you look at the plenum for oil pooling when you had the tb off?
http://www.hughesengines.com/Index/p...p?partid=27091
 
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The gasket between the throttle body and manifold is indeed critical. The other one, not so much.
 
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Old Mar 25, 2019 | 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by HeyYou
The gasket between the throttle body and manifold is indeed critical. The other one, not so much.
Good to know - I'll replace it and have a look into the mainfold as Moparite suggested.

I was in mountains this weekend and noticed very frequent missfire when the engine temperature hits 210 degrees. Even on idle. Says once per 1-2 seconds.
Also noticed, if I turn a steering wheel to the very end position, the idle RPM drops from ~600 to 450-500 (on the hot engine) and from ~600 to 550 (on warm).
 
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RPM drop at the steering end is normal.
 
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Old Mar 28, 2019 | 01:35 PM
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Brought the truck to mechanic. He has found 3 problems, but I'm not sure how 2nd and 3rd could be related to the engine temperature.

1. He has found a manifold intake leak. He sprayed propane(!) in the engine compartment and observed a huge change in the engine behavior. - I would agree, that this leak could depend on temperature.
2. He also found that distributor cap should be replaced. - no doubts, it could cause missfire but the engine temperature should not affect on it. I guess.....
3. He also told me that the distributor shaft is loose and suggested to replace a bushing.

How bad is a first problem, could it be fixed "externally" without a removing of manifold?
For sure, I'm going to replace the distributor cap and rotor, which is easy fix and see how it helps...
 
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