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Old Apr 22, 2007 | 01:43 AM
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Ok, well, I got the new F'n harness on and it is still the exact same thing as F'n before. GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!! It still cranks like it has all the juice in the world, it still isnt throwing any P codes or ## codes. Is it possible for a coilpack to be bad even though it tests good on the volt meter? , I cant think of anything else and I just want to F'n scream!!!!!!!!! AHHHHHHHH!!!
What else do I do? Guys I really need help on this, I am 15 and this will be my car, what else is there!! As a refresher, I replaced the PCM, checked the crank sensor, changed the cam sensor, new wiring harness, new plugs, checked all fuses/relays, and anything else you could imagine. Also, has anyone ever heard of a PDC shorting out? I know about a month ago when I was messing with it I wiggled that around and it was firing ocasionaly, but it still wouldnt start, then nothing again, of course. I really really desperatly need help guys!!!!!!!!
 
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Old Apr 22, 2007 | 01:49 AM
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have you pulled the plugs and grounded them on the block to see if you got good spark with all 4 of them?
 
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Old Apr 22, 2007 | 01:59 AM
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No, I am not getting spark out of any of them. That is why I am thinking it is the coilpack now, is 10.5 ohms good for the coil? That is what I am getting on my meter.
 
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Old Apr 22, 2007 | 02:35 AM
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there was another post just like that a few months ago. i not sure what it was though they never posted an update except that they got it working. was the harnes you installed brand new or junkyard new?
 
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Old Apr 22, 2007 | 06:18 AM
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No, I am not getting spark out of any of them. That is why I am thinking it is the coilpack now, is 10.5 ohms good for the coil? That is what I am getting on my meter.
My book says 0.45 - 0.65 ohms for the coil primary and 7000 - 15,800 ohms for the high voltage side.

I would also check engine ground straps especially the one that connects to the valve cover bolt on the passenger side. Also check the PCM ground connections.

Double check or swap out the Crankshaft sensor as it will also kill the spark if bad.
 
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Old Apr 22, 2007 | 10:02 AM
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Well if my crank sensor was bad, It would be throwing a code, wouldnt it?
 
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Old Apr 22, 2007 | 03:31 PM
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Well if my crank sensor was bad, It would be throwing a code, wouldnt it?
That's a good question, will itstore a code if the engine isn't actually running? But I suppose it should have had a code back when this first happened.

As far as the PDC it is possible to have a damaged or broken wire. If the fuel pump runs when you turn on the ignition then you know that fuse 21 and the fuel pump relay are OK. That fuse also feeds the PCM via a Red/white wire, make sure it has 12v at the PCM connector. Then check for 12v at the ASD relay output the Grn/org wire that powers the injectors coil etc. NOTE: I think the ADS will shut this one down in a couple of seconds after the ignition is turned on if the engine is not running.
 
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I am just running out of things to replace on this car and it is driving me insane!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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