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Old Jul 25, 2007 | 06:53 PM
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Well, I got home today from Florida and finally got a chance to put the coilpack on I got from das like two months ago, went to fire her up and it still will not start[:@] I just do not understand this thing!! I know now for a fact that I am getting power to the coilpack like it should be (I have a good test light now that enables be to see it while I turn on the key), but still, NO SPARK!! No codes, no blown fuses, I am getting fuel, I just do not understand it. Is it possible that the spark plug wires could be causing this? I am running out of ideas and that is the only thing that has not been replaced between the coil and the plugs. GRRRRR!
 
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Old Jul 25, 2007 | 07:54 PM
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I find it hard to believe that all the spark wires are bad. Take a long screw drive with a plastic or rubber handle. Stick the screw driver in to the boot of the spark plug wire hold it as close to the head as possible. It may work on the valve cover. Have someone try to start the car. Make sure you are not touching any metal of the screw driver. And look to see if you getting a spark between the screw driver and the head. And you can check each wire like that.
 
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Old Jul 25, 2007 | 09:19 PM
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Is it possible your wiring harness isn't spliced correctly?
 
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Old Jul 25, 2007 | 10:20 PM
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Well, I think I found the problem but I do not know where to go with it. After further investigation, I found that I was not getting anything from the wires from the PCM, but I am getting 10.82 v from the orange/green wire. What could be my problem now? Arent the two wires wired directly into the pcm? I have replaced the harness, and the pcm and it did no good, I am stumped and do not know where I am going with this car, it is getting to the point where I may get rid of it. Help!
 
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Old Jul 25, 2007 | 10:47 PM
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was you replacing a bad coilpack or upgrading to a better one if so try your old one again and see what it does
 
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Old Jul 26, 2007 | 07:00 AM
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does the pcm make a constant buzzing sound when the ignition is on????

when i had the wiring problem with my car i found out that almost all the wires going to the pcm supply it a little bit of power.....you can have 3 wires that show 12-13volts, but if one of the many other wires is bad, you wont get the pcm to turn on...
refresh my memory.....did you replace the engine harness???
 
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Old Jul 26, 2007 | 11:33 AM
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Yes, new (used) harness, and yes, pcm buzzes, everything functions like it should, fuel pump kicks on, no key codes or obd 2 codes except 12 and 55. Like I said, when I have someone cranking it, I do not get anything with the test light on the blue/tan and the black/grey wires on the coil plug. But I am getting 10.82 volts to the coil, is this normal? I still tried a jumper wire directly from the battery to the green/orange wire and still nothing. I had another (used) pcm in there before, and it made no difference, but I dont understand, do the grey/black and blue/tan wires go directly to the pcm or are they fed through something? I have the wiring diagrams but I cant find them, I ripped them out of my haynes manual to copy them and now I cant find them.
 
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Old Jul 26, 2007 | 12:19 PM
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there are about 4 different wires that run through the entire harness and splice off at almost every sensor...i believe one of them is blue/tan.....the black/grey wire should be either your ground, or the tach wire......
hold on....im gonna go run out in the garage and check for ya
 
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Old Jul 26, 2007 | 12:26 PM
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oh ok...your green/orange wire is fed through everything......so
one of the wires on the coil should be a ground and the other should me more or less, a trigger wire.....i would think anyways...

what about the crank sensor and cam sensors????
 
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Old Jul 26, 2007 | 02:29 PM
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Cam sensor was replaced, and there are no codes, and if there was a bad crank sensor, it would be throwing a code. But, when I had the other pcm, I took the grey/black and blue/tan wires out of the pcm plug and wired it directly to the coil, and nothing. I am sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo stumped!
 
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