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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 11:26 AM
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give me a list then of what you think it will add

Mopar pcm
Udp
2.0 cams
larger Tb&spacer
CAI
Free Flowing Exhaust
Header
i would guess sumwhere between 10-12 hp......maybe...

watch out for some of those grand ams....
my ex girlfriends mom had a 2002 grand am se....that damn car would walk all over my old 98 r/t.....

you would need alot of power to stand up against a 500 hp camaro.....more then 270 atleast....
a weight difference like that would make a slight difference, but you still need to figure in the gearing and torque......

my red r/t was able to beat a Z06 corvette......but that was running 18 pounds of boost and more then 270 hp
even with alot of really hard launches, i am still running the stock axels that i used back then
I was going to say 10-15, so thats pretty accurate.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 12:04 PM
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that doesnt make since at all considering just the pcm adds 8-10 to the TIRES... not to the crank so its prolly double that to the crank and your saying 15 hp for all of it thats like 5 hp for all that stuff besides the pcm..

then what in the hell can i do that actually adds hp.. cuz all that stuff is about all the bolt ons that you can get...
 
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 12:20 PM
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so this is what you guys are saying

Mopar pcm ___2hp
Udp ____2hp
2.0 cams ___1hp
larger Tb&spacer ___2hp
CAI__2 hp
Free Flowing Exhaust ___1hp
Header_ 1hp

 
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 01:17 PM
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There is no point in guessing...get it dyno'd when you are finished.

See the link for actual dyno numbers after mods....
https://dodgeforum.com/m_809244/tm.htm
 
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 01:17 PM
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that doesnt make since at all considering just the pcm adds 8-10 to the TIRES...

all the hp increases are supposed averages.....not always exact....

if your wanting alot more power then you would have to go turbo......but if you want only bolt ons, you will need:
much larger cams then just the 2.0 stock cams.....sumthing like the crane #18's would make a big difference.....

a free flowing exhaust and a header dont add gobs and gobs of power.....just a little bit
what do you mean by "free flowing" exhaust anyways??? straight pipes???
but between a header and free flowing exhaust you wont be looking at anywhere near 20-hp
 
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 01:55 PM
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ok yeah true ill see what i can do in oklahoma.. but thanks for the link that was good thank you

we will just have to see im plainning on a race ported head and crane 18's and amm intake but that is years to come prolly next year around this time
 
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 03:15 PM
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forget about trying to calculate your hp based off what mods u put on it. you just cant do that. it wont come anywhere close to what you estimate. you have to remember that each individual piece you bolt on will change the charactoristics and the co-operation of those parts. like das said. just get the parts and put them on. you will feel the differance imediatly. after all, its not the # your after. its the feeling and effect of what those parts do. p.s. get an acr transaxle if you want to race that car. it makes all the differance in the world.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 03:16 PM
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Don't always believe what you read (especially when it comes to manufacturer's claims.)
 
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 03:42 PM
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I didn't want to fk around with small ****, 5 hp here 2 hp there and so on, I wanted big power right away so my car could be vastly more powerfull than the rest of the crap out there.

I think your Goals are a little too high, but if you have the money then I guess go for it. If you want to beat everybody get a Hemi, thats why I'm going to get a 2 door Neonand throw my Hemi in it and twin turbo it, My 331hemi is fkn stock pretty much and I'm gonna throw 25 psi at it (yes it can handle it, read the 50s record books ) and make my own frame for the Neon, I think it would be a super sleeper car. Similar set ups have made 580-600hp.

So when the Turbo 4 cylinder sohc isn't enough I'm not going to the Stratus 2.4 I'm going to my 331Hemi, its sitting in the Garage and waiting for its time to throw down its wrath.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 03:51 PM
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The HP numbers that are published on bolt-ons could be anywhere in the powerband also. The seller just wants to put a big number on the package. Your TB may give you 10 hp at 1500 rpm, but only 2 at 4000 - where you need it. I think 10-15 is about right though for what your doing. To push some power without adding a turbo or nitrous you will need to get into your head also. Cams, compression ratio and porting. One bottleneck andall of your bolt-ons will add up to s**t. As for the Camero, sell your Neon and buy a Hayabusa.
 
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