I agree. I love the simplicity of our motors, I hear cam selection sucks for em and you have to adjust valves by hand. Theres a reason why so many parts are available for the 420a's

 

I don't have a single favorite company. I just like to drive cars

 

well i walk all over un boosted vtec civics and preludes i run door 2 door with civics on 8 psi and they pull me if they have above ten psi, my neon does have more goodies than i thought, its got a hi flow head on it from indy heads so that deff helps.

 

still calling shenanigans on running with boosted civics...if you get me some video i will be a believer.. i run with some boosted civics and they are quick and i run with srt4's which are also quick...and im almost postivie your not pushing anything over 200whp with out bottom end work..either boost or high compression and your head aint helping that much...just hard to believe 8psi and ur keeping up

 

Correct me if i'm wrong, but doesn't a Neon have more Torque than a Honda. And it's ultimately the torque that gets you moving down the road the fastest.

 

^ or spinning tires the farthest! LOL, it just depends on what honda engine u r talking about though..

 

yes then an NA honda engine... if i remember correctly i believe that you have to go to the B18 rated at 195hp before you get 130lb-ft... newer hondas are a ton better... the K20a has a lot more tq then the old B and D series engines... but boosted is a whole different story they create a lot more power and a ton more tq then NA.... which is the same for any engine... boost is the only way to get tq in a honda

 

still on the honda convo are we? like you say without video evidence or first hand knowledge, we'll never know if he can keep up with boosted jap junk. But seeing as how this is a dodge site, I'll give him the benefit of a doubt. As a community, if we start pointing fingers about he's a liar or she's a liar over some dumb civic then we all fail. Besides, just because its got a turbo doesn't mean a thing really. VTECs dont come stock with a turbo, so chances are its a botch job running a bad tune.

(Hell, if he kid has my TD05 12a, then chances are that he's topped out at 190 hp! I can blow air thru a straw and get more boost then my 12a!!!)

 

first off i dont have a limter on my neon because i got a manual valvie bodie and y speed snesor isnt hooked up so i keeps going until i rev out my last gear

 

[QUOTE=l33tn3wb3r;1641138][QUOTE=Altima_wb;1640929]yes but the other thing is that not all VTEC is the same... there are different versions... like the SOHC version are strictly for fuel efficiency... but the VTEC thats on like the teg GSR and type Rs, and the nsx, and S2000... those versions are yes still there so that under normal driving you get killer milage and still hella easy to drive but when you open it up you get the killer top end power that hondas are so well known for...[/QUOTE

agreed

In a vtec engine, there are two camshafts, not one. One is for low-rpms, the other for the vtec at higher rpms, and was designed to increase power output when the ECU switches from one to the other. The newer versions are either for just fuel efficiency, or for both fuel and power. The second camshaft for the vtec was better suited for higher rpms, so instead of just having one camshaft for all rpms, it was divided, so that if you wanted some more power, you got your power. This way it maximizes power output of the high rpm's, while the other camshaft focuses on fuel efficiency at the lower rpms.