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Old 05-31-2005 | 11:58 PM
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a certain "friend" of mine said that he has a 97 eclipse with a "DOHC 420a engine (norm, right?) but with an EVO VIII block" [&:] does this even make sense?! he was telling me about all these mods he's getting for it and crap and how it's gonna blow the doors off of mine and when i told him that he can't get the 500 HP that he thinks he can out of it without rebuilding the bottom end, he said I'm full of sh*t. [&:] any help? anybody know more about this?
 
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Old 06-01-2005 | 08:33 AM
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Full of it. He obviously doesn't understand even basic terminology:

- 420a engine = the same block we have with a Mitsubishi designed DOHC head (which only makes 140 HP compared to the Neon DOHC's 150 HP...).
- EVO VIII block = the bottom part of the engine (or engine minus head) from a Lancer EVO, for example.

If he's trying to mate the EVO VIII block with the Mitsu head from a 420a, he'll have a heck of a time since the cylinder bore centers don't line up, much less oil and water passages...

If he's trying to shoehorn the complete EVO VIII engine in there, I'd be curious what he's planning on using for motor mounts, tranny, and engine control (computer) since nothing's going to mix well... Not saying it can't be done, but it's definitely a project for experienced folks.

The EVO VIII already has a sturdy bottom end. I don't think it would have much issue with 500 HP.

Still, full of it.
 
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Old 06-01-2005 | 11:28 AM
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<3 u radar my girlfriend knows absolutely nothing about this kind of stuff and she was kind of mediating this argument. now, I believe I have even more facts to back myself up
 
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Old 06-01-2005 | 01:22 PM
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Umm....dont see how thats possible at all seeing as how the evo vIII vg63t block takes longer torque bolts and bolts completely opposite of our motors. Not to mention that Mounts dont match up at all...
 
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Old 06-01-2005 | 02:09 PM
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yea! and, radar, I don't think he's all that experienced at all he's like 16...we got into this huge argument and now I'm trying to end it. So, the definitive value is that he's still full of crap.
 
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Old 06-09-2005 | 12:11 AM
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he's completly full of s***.................
 
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Old 06-09-2005 | 12:55 AM
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IT is possible to do, but not with the neon head and evo block. [sm=badidea.gif][sm=bs.gif][sm=bs.gif][sm=bs.gif][sm=bs.gif][sm=bs.gif][sm=bs.gif]
 
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Old 06-09-2005 | 07:23 AM
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ORIGINAL: neon1985

he's completly full of s***.................
hahahahahahaha I love this guy
 
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Old 06-24-2005 | 02:19 AM
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sigh now he thinks eclipses, talons and lazers use a 4g63 block...don't eclipses and talons use a 420a block? also, he now says he's planning on using an EVO VIII exhaust manifold exhaust on his eclipse. sigh...16 y/o vs 19 y/o...help again plz?
 
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Old 06-24-2005 | 02:23 PM
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well 1st gen talons lasers and eclipses i do believe used the 4g63 and 4g63t motors. Most of them if they didnt have those used the 1.8s now the 2nd gens used 420s and 4g63(t), 3rd gens used 4g64 and i believe 2.5 or 3.0s dont quote me on the v6s but I think they used the same as the stratus'. but as of fitting the exhaust manifold of the evo 8 on a 4g63 id imagine its possible but the retard would prolly wonder why the header was so short in the absence of the turbo and downpipe. Unless in fact he has a 4g63t motor.
 


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