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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 05:39 PM
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For the last two days my trucks has been giving me problems. In the morning around 7:30 i go out to start it and it wil just crank and spin, but won't actually catch and fire up and run by itself. The starter works or it wouldn't spin and the battery has to be working. So what do i look for i haven't touch anything just did it one tuesday morning and today. But i opened the hood and nudged the coil wire the sensor one not the spark plug wire and tried it again and it started right up. When come out of school around 3:15 it starts right up, only seems to happen in the morning. Is it real simple or something complicated. The coil isn't the stock one it's an accel super coil, should i switch it to stock and them try it?
 
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Old Aug 17, 2007 | 01:35 AM
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pull the starter and check its gear teeth these do wear down if its not spinning ur pullies. if it is spinning the motor its possible it is a loose wire cut and recrimp the positive and negative. still if not try a differant coil msd if u want a performance type of go back to mopar accel isnt known for the best canister style coils there kinda hit and miss
other possibiltys engine floods weak spark . any nudging of wires to get something to work like the distributor to coil wire means it may not be fully connected bad connection etc. how does ur wiring look old and haggered or fairly decent?
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Old Aug 17, 2007 | 06:23 PM
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The coil isn't a canister one it has a computer plug on it no lead. Does mopar make a perfomance coil that will fit my truck. The wires haven't been cut into but it is still 15 years old and it looks like a 15 year old car would. It will spin the motor but it won't catch like there is no spark or gas for it to fire on. What would fix weak spark?
 
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Old Aug 17, 2007 | 07:20 PM
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ok i was under the assumption this was a older carb type truck. a newer fuel injected theres differant plausiblitys. is it throttle body injected? if so check down the throttle body see how the fuel injectors are spraying do they look like a wide stream? or dribbling? some TBI type vechicles use filters around the fuel injectors these do clog. also the fuel filter may be clogged. any performance issues? id check timing to see if its set to spec. you can usually find its spec on a fender well or near the radiator or simply look around for the year make model engine and trans it uses again some times timing is differant on auto from manual but if you cant find one trans specific just go with what you can find.
if this is multi port injected injector per port. check fuel pressure has well cold start solonid should be on both tbi and mpfi. finding weak spark is simple simply replace the wires plugs distributor cap and rotor also for a couple bucks more swap the air filter and by some throttle body cleaner follow the directions but generally use vigorusly in the throttle body to clean it fuel filter should be replaced regularly if you cant remember when its been changed or have no record its time. you wont need a mopar performance coil just a standard stock mopar.
lemme tell you why ive personally severely ugraded a 90 crx ignition system msd 6al cap mods msd wires ngk r plugs coil, HKS world earth ground system. the whole deal. spent nearly 700 dollars in ignition i ugrades. i gained a whole 3hp on the dyno throttle was smoother but this could of simply been from going from a 15 year old ignition to a new. unless you have some decent power to back it up you wont notice a thing from a performance switch.
msd may make one from yours i believe msd makes some of mopars performance stuff some just looks to alike. like i said though go stock youll be fine just give this truck a decent tune up another thing to look into is a fuel system cleaning just take it to a shop say you want the fuel system cleaned if youve never done it its probably best to watch how they do it first people have been known to bend connecting rods doing it themselves.
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Old Aug 17, 2007 | 09:33 PM
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it's multi port (one injector per port) I was just looking to get a hotter spark so there is nothing wrong with the stock coil, should i just install it instead? Just bought new air cleaner and where would that solenoid be at (cold start)? Should i go with astock cap, rotor, plugs, and wires or upgrade to hotter ones? The cleaner is it throttle body and carb cleaner or just TB cleaner because i have some carb cleaner? The filter in the tank or an external filter for fuel because i would hate to drop tank to just chage filter.
 
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Old Aug 18, 2007 | 12:43 AM
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carb cleaner and tb usually close to the same the both dry off fairly quickly
yes stock stuff will work best trust me unless you have severe mods a hot ignition does little the msd claims that you gain 20hp is in certain cases likely cars that had a magneto ignition before then switched to coil on plug that would yeild larger gains. stock will work great. a better invest ment would be a full exhaust 15 year old cats are generally pretty clogged.
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Old Aug 18, 2007 | 01:01 AM
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external fuel filter btw internal ones generally do not need replacement i pulled the take off a 89 bronco bad fuel pump aside from the obvious change in color it was generally clean tank on the other hand was dirty.
if you do decide to still go aftermarket summit sells there brand dist cap and rotor nice unit also the wires would be good from them. dont go with the fantastic spark plugs these are generally junk go with standard champion plugs or platnuim 1's dont get those 30 dollar a plug deals ive never noticed a differance unless it was switching from colder to hotter plugs vice versa.
also platnum 4's on that crx was a horsepower loss switched to standard champions back up.
i cant find out if yours came with the cold start solinoid so i wouldnt worry about it for now.
dont forget fuel pressure check it you can usually rent pressure checkers at autozone dont forget though ur fuel injection system is high pressure use safety precautions extinguisher or hose handy use a rag when hooking up or removing to stop the splash
also do your hear your fuel pump turn on when u turn the ignition key on but not to run. you should hear it also try letting it run for a sec before u fire it up see if this fixs it if so you have a dieing fuel pump
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Old Aug 19, 2007 | 12:09 PM
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That's what i plan on doing, replacing everything. I can't really here the pump but i haven't been listening for it. I have been waiting a moment before i turn to start and it still does it. The last two days i have lifted the hood and listened after i have tried to crank and i here a noise like when you pull a car antena back and let it go. Like knocking noise but it stops when i turn key back to stop position like your going to pull it out and when i turn it to run or start it does it again but it doesn't always do it, only if i try to crank it a couple of times. I can't find the ****ing filter, says it's right beside tank and i can't see it unless it is between the etank a rail( in the C section), because tank is right beside the damn rail.
 
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Old Aug 19, 2007 | 12:14 PM
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can't find any mention of cold start solenoid.
 
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Old Aug 19, 2007 | 12:16 PM
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Could i use a scan tool and find the pronblem?
 
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