X pipe or H pipe
#1
X pipe or H pipe
In the future I plan to build up my little 318 pretty good. However, I am starting cheap and small. One of the first things I am doing is a nice dual exhaust. Summit headers first ($99 can't go wrong?)
Now, I have been told by several people that I need to do a H pipe or X pipe.
I have heard that an h pipe will give you more power (mainly torqe) low in the rpm range. It will also have a deeper exhaust tone.
The x pipe will give you more (hp) higher up in the rpm range. It will have a little bit higher pitched exhaust tone than the h pipe.
So, which is better, and why?
Now, I have been told by several people that I need to do a H pipe or X pipe.
I have heard that an h pipe will give you more power (mainly torqe) low in the rpm range. It will also have a deeper exhaust tone.
The x pipe will give you more (hp) higher up in the rpm range. It will have a little bit higher pitched exhaust tone than the h pipe.
So, which is better, and why?
#2
RE: X pipe or H pipe
engines fire like so: LRLLRLRR and its those double pulses which are killing you.
In an H configuration, your basically working with two straight pipes since the gasses rarely make a 90 degree turn - especially at high pressure (why the power gain is lost at high RPMs). So when the gas is travelling very quickly, your still running down one pipe
In an x config, those double pulses get a better chance to split up at the x junction. So then its like doubling the net diameter of your system.
In either case, your better off then a single exaust.
h pipe:
- possible backfire on downshift
- cheaper
- less power gain, because the gasses "tumble" which is why you get the next point
- sounds better (more grrrrburble burble burble burble burble pop burble burble)
x pipe:
- more power (at higher RPM range)
- more money
- less ballsey noise becasue gasses travel faster, which is where more power comes from
http://www.carcraft.com/techarticles.../photo_10.html - pictue of h and x compared
http://www.carcraft.com/techarticles...ion/index.html - article about both
these guys got a 12 HP and 5ft-lbs increase with X over the H. I think that an increase of 8 is ambitious for our trucks...
anyhow, nothing can beat this http://kalecoauto.com/index.php?main...;products_id=3
In an H configuration, your basically working with two straight pipes since the gasses rarely make a 90 degree turn - especially at high pressure (why the power gain is lost at high RPMs). So when the gas is travelling very quickly, your still running down one pipe
In an x config, those double pulses get a better chance to split up at the x junction. So then its like doubling the net diameter of your system.
In either case, your better off then a single exaust.
h pipe:
- possible backfire on downshift
- cheaper
- less power gain, because the gasses "tumble" which is why you get the next point
- sounds better (more grrrrburble burble burble burble burble pop burble burble)
x pipe:
- more power (at higher RPM range)
- more money
- less ballsey noise becasue gasses travel faster, which is where more power comes from
http://www.carcraft.com/techarticles.../photo_10.html - pictue of h and x compared
http://www.carcraft.com/techarticles...ion/index.html - article about both
these guys got a 12 HP and 5ft-lbs increase with X over the H. I think that an increase of 8 is ambitious for our trucks...
anyhow, nothing can beat this http://kalecoauto.com/index.php?main...;products_id=3
#3
RE: X pipe or H pipe
X pipe
http://www.popularhotrodding.com/tec...ech/index.html
equally good technical exhaust article written by the guy NASCAR hired to run their engine education college degree at the UNC-Charlotte:
http://www.superchevy.com/technical/...exh/index.html
http://www.popularhotrodding.com/tec...ech/index.html
equally good technical exhaust article written by the guy NASCAR hired to run their engine education college degree at the UNC-Charlotte:
http://www.superchevy.com/technical/...exh/index.html
#5
RE: X pipe or H pipe
ORIGINAL: nemesis_SS
anyhow, nothing can beat this http://kalecoauto.com/index.php?main...;products_id=3
anyhow, nothing can beat this http://kalecoauto.com/index.php?main...;products_id=3
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#6
RE: X pipe or H pipe
ORIGINAL: lugnuts
You may regret the cheap headers though. I'd rather get a set with thick flanges at the headsthanreplace gaskts all the time.
You may regret the cheap headers though. I'd rather get a set with thick flanges at the headsthanreplace gaskts all the time.
Derek
#7
RE: X pipe or H pipe
The Headers are fine, I have a pair on my 91 D150 from Summitracing and I have no problem with them. All Summitracing parts are Edelbrock. Summit buys there parts in Bulk from Edelbrock and puts there name on it. I also have a H-pipe Muffler on my truck too and it sounds pretty good too...
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#9
RE: X pipe or H pipe
ORIGINAL: PushnFords
That's hilarious!
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ORIGINAL: nemesis_SS
anyhow, nothing can beat this http://kalecoauto.com/index.php?main...;products_id=3
anyhow, nothing can beat this http://kalecoauto.com/index.php?main...;products_id=3
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