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Old Nov 16, 2009 | 09:57 AM
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i was want to know if you can remove the oil pan without having to lift the engine. i have an oil leak and i think it is the oil pan its self. would it be wise to try patching the oil pan if i do find a leak or would it better to replace it?
 

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Old Nov 16, 2009 | 04:19 PM
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I have seen some pans come out without any engine lifting but not on my 4x4. You can braze an oil pan with a coat hanger and some brazing flux but I would clean it up and find the leak before I tear it apart.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2009 | 06:24 PM
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i don't have torches to do brazing. i was thinking about using JB weld or some other type of sealant. if i do repair it i plan on painting my oil pan so i would have to clean it. should i get a gasket for the oil pan or should i use silicone?
 
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Old Nov 17, 2009 | 06:55 AM
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Unless you find that the gasket is leaking there is no need to remove the pan at all to use JB weld. Clean the pan in place , find the leak, drain the oil, and patch it. If you do remove the pan use a new gasket and RTV.
 
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Old Nov 17, 2009 | 03:13 PM
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i think i found the leak. i tried cleaning it then patching it with some Seal All. i will find out if it is still leaking tomoro.
 
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Old Nov 21, 2009 | 02:35 PM
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i sealed the one leak but i found another one. hopefully there is no more. i will find out tomoro as long as it doesn't rain.
 
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Old Nov 21, 2009 | 06:51 PM
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I've used JB High Temp stuff with hot oil and a small leak on the gasket... yeah, the pan wasn't comming off easy after that, but... it only had to last til we scrapped the car
the regular JB also works well on the water cooling.

yeah, we beat that car to pieces... and glued it back together with JB Weld.
 
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i've been using Seal All since i still had some left from my rusty gastank lines. too lazy to go to the store to get a propper sealer. Seal All is suppose to be oil and gas resistant but i don't know about heat. i will soon find out.
 

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Old Dec 7, 2009 | 12:13 PM
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i finally check my oil pan today and it is still leaking after i ran it for a few minutes. it looks like the oil pressure is too much for the seal-all to keep the oil in the pan. ever where i called want $150+ for a new oil pan plus $23+ for a new oil pan gasket. looks like i'm going to have to weld it and make it last.
 
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There is no oil pressure in the pan. As a matter of fact there should be a slight vacuum in that area due to PCV (positive crankcase ventilation) system. I would be darn sure there is enough metal there to weld on before tare down.
 
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