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Old Jul 25, 2006 | 12:49 PM
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Hey guys, I bought this truck for about $2000 out the door. It runs like a champ,
but it has some issues with wiring and the like. Please take a look and see if you can
be of any assistance with these things. I am as confused as a baby in a titty bar when
it comes to older style engines.



This part is conected via spring to my throttle body lever, then routes
itself under the chassis down near the drivers side of the transmission.
The lower end of the rod has a small clamp with a bolt on it to tighten/loosen,
but there isnt anything near it to bolt to.
What is it supposed to goto, and what does it do?



This hose (second picture) ends on the driver side with a valve cover bolt in it.
It originates on the back passanager side of what I beleave to be the intake plenum.
It goes into a three way (third picture picture) along with two other hoses.
What is it supposed to be connected to, and what is it for?


I think this is on my a/c hose but I can't recall. I dont assume
that this valve is a stock OE part. Why would the original owner
put a valve on this hose and what would it control?


This is on the driver side fender where presumably there would have been a fuse box.
I cant imagine someone rewiring the whole damn truck and it still running right, so is
this close to what it was from the factory, or did I have one lucky SOB for an original
owner?


I am assuming this is my factory EGR vent. I just put on an Edelbrok air cleaner
because the intake tube that was on the truck when we bought it went to the driver
side, and the EGR is on the passanger side. Can I delete this vent, or would that leave
a hole in my manifold? Any experiences with this?


This appears to have belonged to a sensor or some sort back in the day.
What does the bottom hose goto on them from the factory?


For the love of God and all things good please help me out... lol...
 
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Old Jul 25, 2006 | 04:49 PM
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What year is the truck?

I'm guessing the first picture is your kick down linkage.

2nd - vacuum line for the PCV that probably vented into the stock airbox

3rd - Are you sure that shut-off isn't in the coolant line that feeds the heater core?

4th - Some of that looks about right.

5th - That's definitely not your EGR vent. That's a heat riser bracket for the throttle body/air cleaner.

6th - No clue.
 
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Old Jul 25, 2006 | 06:23 PM
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Can someone take a picture, or find one for me, of where the kickdown-linkage is supposed to goto on the transmission (or can Chiltons tell me in his book?).

The heat riser bthing had a corregated hose that went into the bottom of the intake tube. But it was on the wrong side. Whats the purpose of that, afterall cooler air is denser, why invite hot air into the system?
 
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Old Jul 25, 2006 | 09:29 PM
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The heat riser bthing had a corregated hose that went into the bottom of the intake tube. But it was on the wrong side. Whats the purpose of that, afterall cooler air is denser, why invite hot air into the system?
Like I asked before, what YEAR is the truck? If it's still a carbed truck, then it needs heat to run decent in the winter, otherwise the carb will ice up. That tube is there to pipe heat up there so that doesn't happen until the motor gets warm. And trust me...it happens. I plow with a '79 Ramcharger that has a non-functional heat riser (the valve is broke). It's a PITA to get that thing warmed up in the winter. I usually have to slam on the choke and let it sit for 10 mins before I can even get moving.
 
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Old Jul 25, 2006 | 11:57 PM
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Ok, you're located in Florida, you won't need the heat riser. I live in Washington and I've been heat riser free for 4 years now and when it's freezing out I can usually drive within about 3 minutes. Warmer days, fire it up, stick it in neutral, and let it sit for a minute or two to get the tranny fluid pumping.

1) tranny kickdown linkage. As soon as I change out of my work clothes I'll snag a pic of mine (1986 w250 with the 3-speed A727)
2) I agree with Burning. Do you have emissions checks in your area? If not, you might as well yard it out and put a cap on the vacuum tree. One less potential leak.
3) That valve is on the supply line of your heater core. The shutoff was put in there to eliminate hot coolant from circulating in your air box. You live in Florida, you'll probably sweat a lot if you don't close it off during the summer.
4) That's what we call a rats nest. It's appalling. Please eliminate those wire nuts as soon as possible, and use correct crimp connectors. It looks like the previous owner had some extra fog, overhead, backup, and landing lights installed. Seriously, where do all of those wires go? Are there wires dangling under the bumpers? If it is unused stuff, I'd yard it out too - that's just asking for a fire. The fuse panel in my 86 is located underneath the steering wheel. Your truck is apparently an 88-93 era, so I'd guess yours is there too, or between the dash and the door on the driver's side.
5) Heat riser, already covered. Mine was on the driver's side, that one appears to be off of a van and on the passenger's side. You can remove it if you'd like.
6) I can't tell by the photo, but I'm guessing that it's a vacuum line to control the HVAC system. Mine are all cable operated, but yours I'm guessing is newer and the air door might be vacuum operated. Is it a wire or a hose?
 
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Old Jul 26, 2006 | 12:54 AM
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It's a 1991 D150 w/ a 318ci 5.2L V8 mated to an automatic.

Thanks guys. I would love to get some pics from you Horatio (god Shakespear name drop btw) so I can get that connected. As far as emissions and that triplet tree I will probably trace the hoses (three of them) and delete it form my engine. The valve has been answered thank god, and the wires... heh... thats an entire mess in and of itself. My trailor wires were wired to power using speaker wire and I have various wires running thoughout my dash for switches that dont control anything... >.<

Heater riser will get plated off and removed and my HVAC doesnt blow cold anyways. Its the older non R134 system so I am fuxxored on that account. >.< But I will see where it may have gone to. It isnt a wire, its a vaccum tube I assume.

I also need to get the exhuast redone by a pro because the old owner had some ghetto **** rigged to where it exits against the passanger rear tire... >.<
 
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Old Jul 26, 2006 | 01:30 AM
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This is what mine looks like. It's muddy, it's not a show truck. There are some wires along the top of the fender, but by and large it's not a mess. Also, you do have a vacuum line running to the brake booster, right? That one is important.
http://home.comcast.net/~keifsmomma/enginebay.jpg

The next two images are of the heat stove - it's literally just a metal heat shield that directs air off of the exhaust manifold to your intake. You don't need to block anything off, and it weighs about a pound. If you want to take it off, fine, if you want to leave it, great. I caution you though, those bolts are rusty and 15 years old, you MAY break one or more off. Definately get some AeroKroil or similar premium penetrating rust eating lubricant. WD40 is bottom shelf.
http://home.comcast.net/~keifsmomma/heatstove.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~keifsmomma/heatstove2.jpg

And the following were taken with me lying on my back, feet sticking out under the driver's door.

Top of pic = Transmission pan on the left, bellhousing on the right. The two lines ziptied together are tranny cooler lines. The bottom of the image is my header collector. In the darkness between there's a rod sticking out with some levers attached, and another rod leading toward the back (left).
http://home.comcast.net/~keifsmomma/kickdown1.jpg

This is taken from slightly further towards the back, it shows the anchor point for that rod leading back from the lever.
http://home.comcast.net/~keifsmomma/kickdown2.jpg

I shoved the camera into the void. the top right corner is the topside of my header collector, the bottom left is the tranny shifter adjustment stuff (with some blue tape residue??) towards the top of the image is the lever that has the rod pictured in kickdown2 attached to it.
http://home.comcast.net/~keifsmomma/kickdown3.jpg

Another view of the same. Bottom of image is the driver's side frame rail.
http://home.comcast.net/~keifsmomma/kickdown4.jpg

Probably the best view - the glowing whiteness is the header collector flange and I don't know what on the bottom corner. Dead center is the shifter linkage adjustment stuff, and you can see the kickdown arm coming down above it. The very left side is the driver's side floor/foot well. Sorry I didn't get a better shot of the rod end, it's just pretty hard to get a clear shot of.
http://home.comcast.net/~keifsmomma/kickdown5.jpg


View from engine compartments looking down. Can't really see much of use.
http://home.comcast.net/~keifsmomma/kickdown6.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~keifsmomma/kickdown7.jpg



I'm going to try and get a better shot at the business end of the kickdown. It's just hard to know where to point the camera when it's jambed up above the exhaust and stuff.
 
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Old Jul 26, 2006 | 02:04 AM
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hahahaha....


Greatest. Pictures. Ever.

I owe you a huge one man. Definatly going to help me out when I get around to fixing that kickdown linkage. I have a small grocery list of thing I want to get done, and eventually I will post it up here for input. But your assistance is greatly appreciated. I am glad that I found a forum for my Dodge that is as helpfull as the one for my old Toyota Matrix. Some forums are so horrible I refuse to go back.

I think I found a home for my Dodge here though...

THANKS!!!

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Old Jul 26, 2006 | 04:02 AM
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That truck looks like it's in great shape!

There's a **** ton of stuff you could remove from the engine - smog pump (but you'll need to plug the pipe, and if you get headers you'll need to plug the holes in the heads), all kinds of vacuum lines, etc.

I didn't get back under my truck tonight, I got distracted by my neighbors' plight to get a couple of vehicles running. His RX-7 has been sitting unloved for almost 2 years, and his buddy's 60-something F-250 has been sitting about a year. I'm a gear head at heart, been that way since I was 2 years old riding my electric CHiPs motorcycle around the neighborhood in Texas. If I see somebody wrenching, I'll usually drop what I'm doing and dive in, which is how I got suckered into being the go-to guy for a rally team (aka: crew chief, chef, service rig driver, porter, etc.). But I enjoy it. I'll snap some pics tomorrow if I can figure out a better angle.


Oh, and I thought my engine was pretty simple after I removed all of the vacuum, egr, smog, blah blah blah crap that came on it, but that Ford?? Holy cow the engine compartment is empty! It's a 2wd, so big front axle, it has no power brakes, no power steering. It's just a big long inline-6 with an alternator, heater hoses, and a fuel pump. Add a battery and that is pretty much a complete list of everything under the hood.
 
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Old Jul 26, 2006 | 01:55 PM
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Yea, I plan to de-smog her once I get another day off. The airpump was already de-belted and there are a ton of thigns I could pull off and plug with caps and breathers. But for the most part I am still getting used to it being an old truck. For instance last night I was coming home and she wouldnt start. I floored it and cranked and she roared to life only to bog down a few parking spaces over. I gimped half way home before I realized that the check engine light is on and I am almsot out of gas. DUH, it doesnt have an idiot light for the gas gauge. It was slowly running out of usefull fumes. lol...

I know about engines, but know more about smaller ones like Honduhs and v6s.
 
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