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Old Aug 1, 2007 | 03:48 AM
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ok ok soo ive been up all night thinkin of something to do my senior project on

of course all i drew were blanks so i started drifting off about my truck, my plans for it ect ect..

then a supercharger popped in my head. about howi want to do that or mayb a turbo instead.

i was leaning torwards the turbo due to the no parasitic loss and such then i got a crazy idea that i reallly really need your help with

for my senior project i could develope a supercharger with no parasitic loss??

so i thought how would i do this.....well...i was thinking electric fan results in less drag on the motor producing more horses ect so on and so fourth when i thought.

what if i found an electric motor that can spin up to sayyy....6500rpms? and hook that up to the supercharger.and then hook

the electric motor up too the tach. and as the rpms move up in the engine the electric motor would do the same sequencially

i might need a more powerful alternator or battery? mayb another battery specifically for that. orrrrrrr knowing what capacitors do for sound systems could

i throw one of those in between to help out with the power......anyways of course i have no money for this so i was thinkin to write many different supercharger companies who

make kits for my truck to see if theyd like to sponser my project and in return id develope a new product, keep them updated and give copyright solely to them .

i thought this would be perfect since i love working on my truck, and i juss moved so i have absolutely nothing to do except that. and i could get my project done

mayb write other companies of products such as one who makes electric motors and any shops that would help. id offer advertisement and theyre name on the project

so basically thats it. ive been up for hours thinking about it and would really appreciate what u thought about my idea

any opinions on how to make it better or what to say to get a sponsor or even if u thought im juss a kid with too much time and a wandering mind...

or if u think this would work at all.

please input input input.

thanks

-Kevin

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ok was doin more thinking.....sleep wasnt comming..

this is ONLY IF a 6500 rpm motor was too big to put under the hood.

get a small one the spins up to sayyyy 3600 rps

and have a custom piece built for a second intake and throw a nice sized turbo that kiks in around that time....twin turbos? how about a a superturbo charger.

plz. ideas....getting kiked off....
 
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Old Aug 1, 2007 | 09:49 AM
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The RPM of your electric fan doesn't matter. You need to find a small electric fan that puts out as many CFM (cubic feet per minute) as possible. Most any electric fan that puts out enough CFM to assits a V8 in power is much too larger to fin under your hood. And you would need another battery to power a fan of that size and a stronger altenator to charger both batteries.

Electric fans or blowers are mostly one speed. But it is possible to find some that are 2 & 3 speed.But you couldn't actually control the RPM of the fan as you can the RPM of you engine. It just doesn't work that way. To complete such a project may actually be possible, but you will need alot of money and great resources.

I think it would be better to mount a giant squirrel cage blower fan in the bed of you truck with a huge filter on the blower (and a good sealed bed cover) and route the air straight to your air intake tube or intercooler. Then maybe a really big power inverter could power the blower. This would provide enought air (cfm) to really feel the performance gain, if done correctly, you may be able to push a few psi of boost.
These are just my thoughts though...
 
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Old Aug 1, 2007 | 11:57 AM
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If you can make this work, you would have solved a puzzle that engineers have been try to for over 70 years.
 
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Old Aug 1, 2007 | 01:03 PM
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I would just go with a turbo set up.
 
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Old Aug 1, 2007 | 02:12 PM
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Yes, a turbo set-up would be by far the best...

Virused: What did you mean in your comment: "If you can make this work, you would have solved a puzzle that engineers have been try to for over 70 years."
 
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Old Aug 1, 2007 | 06:32 PM
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Parasitic loss is more talk than it is working physics,

if you gain 50-60 HP, Does losing 2-3 really matter?
as that is generally the ratio of gain to loss

as for your project, spidaman, I'd go with a remote-mount turbo or two, no kits available, most efficiant turbo setup you can find
 
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Old Aug 1, 2007 | 09:44 PM
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Parasitic loss is more talk than it is working physics,

if you gain 50-60 HP, Does losing 2-3 really matter?
as that is generally the ratio of gain to loss

as for your project, spidaman, I'd go with a remote-mount turbo or two, no kits available, most efficiant turbo setup you can find
actually turbos work better the hotter the exhuast air is.. Closest to the exhuast from the head is your best bet.. that rear mount turbo **** is stupid, but some cameros and **** have to have it due to the fact they cant fit it in anywhere else.. lol..

o and about the topic...

just grab a really fast ginnie pig and put him in one of thise little circle things and make him run as fast as you can, have you seen the VTEC dyno run with the little thing running in a circle and flying out of it... its on You Tube..

here you go.. install this in your engine bay..

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ftk6OOMO6MA

being serious now.. i'm going twin turbo, once i have the money saved. I have a friend that has a custom Twin Turbo setup, thatis able to work in a stock 360 without any problems. It was so good, KRC actually tried to steal the idea from one of the wrecked trucks that had it in it, amazingly he wasnt able to keep it to long due to the fast lawsuits on his ***..
 
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Old Aug 1, 2007 | 11:53 PM
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Go with a turbo so I can sell you my new Garrett turbo! I'm afraid if I install it on my new engine (which isn't done yet),that it's not going to last with me driving it!
 
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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 02:41 AM
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Go with a turbo so I can sell you my new Garrett turbo! I'm afraid if I install it on my new engine (which isn't done yet),that it's not going to last with me driving it!
o0oo0 i want it!!

 
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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 02:57 AM
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I've been interested to see about the concept of an electric super charger as well.Even a small fan seems sensible, as it would help with low end torque. If you've ever punched your car wide open, and felt the car lurch more than gain, it's often because it's not getting enough. I've heard of people adding electric fans on a few forums for towing applications, such as punching your car when pulling a trailer uphill.


Anyways, it'll be interesting to see what fans there are out there, that run on 12v DC, and their size. Placing the fan is another task in itself. I've currently got my own custom cold air intake I built and am testing, that uses the stock airbox. I've contemplated just riveting a 4" fan inside of the cold air box. I'm wondering if placing the blow pre filter is a good idea however, and if perhaps being post filter would be better.
 
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