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Old Jul 8, 2009 | 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by jonnymagnum
you can do a 5.9. but I think you have to push the firewall back.
Their is no moving of the firewall . . . . . . .
 
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Old Jul 9, 2009 | 01:22 AM
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Look up "Banks Sidewinder" and do your research its already been done with a 5.9 Cummins its the fastest truck in the world street legal, and yes its in a Dakota.. not a god damn Ram.
 
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Old Jul 9, 2009 | 05:38 PM
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its possible... just gonna take a lot of hard work and effort
 
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Old Jul 9, 2009 | 10:55 PM
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Look up "Banks Sidewinder" and do your research its already been done with a 5.9 Cummins its the fastest truck in the world street legal, and yes its in a Dakota.. not a god damn Ram.
Who said anything about it being a ram? I have seen the Banks truck and the firewall is moved. My truck is also a Dakota with a 6BT Cummins 12 valve and the firewall was not moved at all. Yes it is possible to do it without moving the firewall.

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Old Jul 9, 2009 | 11:37 PM
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6BT... can you post up some pictures of yours?
 
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Old Jul 10, 2009 | 07:37 AM
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Look up "Banks Sidewinder" and do your research its already been done with a 5.9 Cummins its the fastest truck in the world street legal, and yes its in a Dakota.. not a god damn Ram.
Yeah, and it also runs on alcohol, propane and enough nitrous to knock out a small town. That's why it doesn't smoke when it runs.

Try buying any of the parts used on Sidewinder. It won't happen. They're all one-off pieces.

Sidewinder is a completely different animal than an everyday, street driven Dakota. Street legal?.....okay, it's got plates and bumpers and can tow a 3500 lb trailer. Feasible and realistic?....that's a different story.

It's like comparing Apples to Oranges.
 

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Old Jul 10, 2009 | 03:08 PM
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Yeah, and it also runs on alcohol, propane and enough nitrous to knock out a small town. That's why it doesn't smoke when it runs.

Try buying any of the parts used on Sidewinder. It won't happen. They're all one-off pieces.

Sidewinder is a completely different animal than an everyday, street driven Dakota. Street legal?.....okay, it's got plates and bumpers and can tow a 3500 lb trailer. Feasible and realistic?....that's a different story.

It's like comparing Apples to Oranges.
Point is, it can be done, it can be street driven, instead of being towed to the races, it tows everything in needs in a trailer behind it, it can still be used as a truck, and driven to its destination. Not a trailer queen like most of them.

Who cares if it smokes or not? The guy is asking about swapping a cummins, the sidewinder has done it, i told him to check the photos and research there ideas if he really was going to do it. He is not going to build something as fast as the Banks (im guessing)

O and you basically answered all your sarcastic questions in your own quote. You cant compare this to anything its one of a kind? What the hell was i compairing it to? A Ram? I just said it wasnt in one and in a Dakota like the guy was asking.

God for bid if i say Ram over here in the Dakota Section you all come out of the woodstock with somthing smart to say.

Yes it is Realistic.
 
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Point is, it can be done, it can be street driven, instead of being towed to the races, it tows everything in needs in a trailer behind it, it can still be used as a truck, and driven to its destination. Not a trailer queen like most of them.

Who cares if it smokes or not? The guy is asking about swapping a cummins, the sidewinder has done it, i told him to check the photos and research there ideas if he really was going to do it. He is not going to build something as fast as the Banks (im guessing)

O and you basically answered all your sarcastic questions in your own quote. You cant compare this to anything its one of a kind? What the hell was i compairing it to? A Ram? I just said it wasnt in one and in a Dakota like the guy was asking.

God for bid if i say Ram over here in the Dakota Section you all come out of the woodstock with somthing smart to say.

Yes it is Realistic.
Wooow, wooow, woow, easy there smokey. Nobody was ever knocking a dak or anything like that was I?

Don't get your panties in a wad, seeing the word Ram had nothing to do with it, I couldn't care less WTF you drive. I saw someone doing a diesel swap and that interested me. I didn't come to bash a Dak at all. Don't get your ego all ruffled up over nothing.

My point to Sidewinder is this. It IS NOT a simple swap into a Dak. It IS NOT simply dropping a motor into a daily driven street truck. It IS a tube framed truck that has had the firewall moved back 18" (You simply can't do that on a production truck).

Also, the Sidewinder IS NOT legal in race trim. It can't just roll off the road, pay it's track fees and blast down the track. That what all the junk in the trailer is for.

As for being used as a truck, you might wanna look at some pics of Sidewinder. Having seen it up close, I can tell ya that it's NOT able to be used as a truck. The ONLY open portion of the FIBERGLASS bed is where the roll cage goes down and there's enough room for the water tank for the intercooler. 2/3 of th bed is completely covered over from the front edge of the wheel tubs back.

The Dakota was extensively modified. Cummins supplied a 2003 5.9-liter turbo diesel I6 originally rated at 393-hp but later dyno tested after the Banks engineering work at 735 hp and more than 1300 ft.-lb. of torque! Shahoian said, “In order to accommodate the straight six the Dakota’s firewall was moved back about 18-inches.” A variable geometry turbocharger (VGT) was used for maximum power during Bonneville speed record runs. The variable geometry of the turbo allows rapid changes in boost pressure *******ly eliminating turbo lag and improving power, fuel economy and noise levels. A water tank in the bed cools the turbocharger’s intercooler and helps balance weight at 55% up front and 45% in the rear. New Venture Gear kicked in a 6-speed manual transmission taken from a Dodge Ram and Inland Empire Driveline supplied a 4-inch aluminum, ¼-inch thick custom driveshaft similar to those built for motorhomes to handle all of the torque. Off-the-shelf Speedway tires with special belts are rated at 300-mph
So before ya decide to set the world on fire and try to firebomb someone who was simply pointing out that comparing a build at home Cummins swap is gonna be nothing like what they did with Sidewinder, ya might want to think before you speak.

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Old Jul 11, 2009 | 04:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Coal Train
Wooow, wooow, woow, easy there smokey. Nobody was ever knocking a dak or anything like that was I?

Don't get your panties in a wad, seeing the word Ram had nothing to do with it, I couldn't care less WTF you drive. I saw someone doing a diesel swap and that interested me. I didn't come to bash a Dak at all. Don't get your ego all ruffled up over nothing.

My point to Sidewinder is this. It IS NOT a simple swap into a Dak. It IS NOT simply dropping a motor into a daily driven street truck. It IS a tube framed truck that has had the firewall moved back 18" (You simply can't do that on a production truck).

Also, the Sidewinder IS NOT legal in race trim. It can't just roll off the road, pay it's track fees and blast down the track. That what all the junk in the trailer is for.

As for being used as a truck, you might wanna look at some pics of Sidewinder. Having seen it up close, I can tell ya that it's NOT able to be used as a truck. The ONLY open portion of the FIBERGLASS bed is where the roll cage goes down and there's enough room for the water tank for the intercooler. 2/3 of th bed is completely covered over from the front edge of the wheel tubs back.



So before ya decide to set the world on fire and try to firebomb someone who was simply pointing out that comparing a build at home Cummins swap is gonna be nothing like what they did with Sidewinder, ya might want to think before you speak.

Remember bud......part of moderator means MODERATION.
Yes i was waiting for the old "your a mod be a mod" quote. I didn't brake any rules, i simply posted a comment to your sarcastic comments (to me they seemed sarcastic) thats why i said that.

Also everyone knows any type of motor swap takes work and time, blood and lots of beer. Im pretty sure he knew it was not going to be an easy swap as he was asking all the questions of how much time, ect it would take.

Also he doesn't say if its going to be used for DR or DD. It can be used for both it you wanted to do it, which was my point.

Anything can be done with enough money and time, don't bust the guys bubble making him think its impossible, i would love to see one of our members do a Cummins swap in a Dak.

Also, now your changing your story first you where sarcastic saying i was comparing apples with oranges that made no point what so ever to anything i said, and the fact that you said and i quote "Street legal?.....okay" yes it is... and can be. Whats your point besides the fact of being sarcastic?

I hope to god, he doesn't race this beast on the Street, and a lot of people that do Drag Race usually have a street trim and a race trim, even on DD.

The kid can do it, of course its not going to be THE Sidewinder, but its a starting point to gather info, and designs.

THATS ALL i was getting at. Also for the people that DIDNT know what the sidewinder was its a dak, not a damn ram... (what im not allowed to say "damn ram" since im a mod?) Rams come with the cummins not Daks, meaning the sidewinder was a dak with a cummins swap and whats the topic title again? Im letting the guy know.

And i NEVER said hey build a sidewinder, i said do the research since they have done it, they have the knowledge and starting points and info to start the build to get an understanding.

Also was it really necessary to say things like "dont get my panties in a wad?" If you want me to moderate, how about i moderate you with a post approve in my section how about that? (joke.. i wouldn't do that to you over this, im just being sarcastic! See how that works?)

Im a moderator, im not god, im still allowed to say my .02 on what i think about things. If you have a problem with that dont read my comments.

I simply make sure everyone is following the rules, and so far no one has broken the rules, but im sure if you continue with the personal attacks against how i like to wear my panties (joke, lol), im sure i can find a reason to edit your posts.

So please continue and tell me how im suppose to moderate this thread since im obviously not doing it right for you.
 
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Old Jul 11, 2009 | 06:09 AM
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The Sidewinder isn't the most "truck like truck," but the guy here was asking if he could swap in a Cummins. He didn't say, "Hey, I'm gonna make the world's fastest truck. Can I do this easy, cheap, and fast. Thanks"
There are many people that have swapped in Cummins (of different sizes).

Why do Dakota owners get defensive? Because it seems that Ram owners get all defensive when Dakota owners talk about Hemi/Cummins swaps, like they think, "No, your not allowed to have those engines."
I believe the comment User made was simply that the Sidewinder was a Dakota. I don't recall seeing in there, "Yea, it's a 4x4, off-roadable Dakota you can definitely haul a bed load of plywood with."
Besides, I seem to remember the Ram SRT-10 not exactly being the most useable truck either. Something about a fixed wing in the back and not rated for towing. Huh, and that was STOCK.
 
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