Running truck with added water power
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Bottom line is people believe what they want to, period.
I apologize for starting this rant, probably should have left it alone.
Back on topic again. I don't have any super scientific method I am going to use for the HHO thing. I am going to run the vehicle about the same using the a/c about the same and record mileage before and after. If this stuff really works the diff should be large enough to speak for itself.
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im betting that there ARE alternative fuels that we just dont know about. i believe the government and oil companieshide alot from people and they have stuff we dont know about and dont want other nations knowing about it either. iseriously doubt that big oil companies or the government is going to let info out to the public until things get completely out of hand.i dont know this for a fact but i think if people take a step back and read between the lines... too many people are making too big of profits to give a crap about the common people. until people say enough is enough, then we will see miracles coming out of the woodwork. an engine to move a vehicle is not that amazing or technical. if man can go to outer space and to mars i really think man can make an alternative fuel. there are synthetic or man madeproducts for just about everything today.technology is further advanced than we can even imagine.
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JasonA I appreciate your "agree to disagree" stand point. Just don't feel like this thread is the right place to keep this going. However I will say this last thing and then we can start a new thread or PM our thoughts to each other.
The info that is made public, the info you have even if you have a gov "Top-secret" clearance is totally diff from a military "Top-secret". I don't have any hard facts and like I said my father-in-law hasn't broken any rules regarding is knowledge, I have just been around him long enough to put 2 & 2 together on some things. Yes there are plenty of things the military is also not privy to. I guess I didn't put my points out there well enough. It is a combination of several organizations and companies that hold back technology and yes it is done on purpose. Why don't we say screw importing oil, use all the money we are wasting making other people and countries rich and start refining ourown, thenget everybody in America in a Hybrid? Because auto makers would be forced to lose money, the oil industry would lose money, crooked political entities would lose money, a bunch of off-shore accounts would stop getting $ put into them, etc. It is not a great Gov conspiracy, it's a bunch of greedy people that don't want to let go of their profit. The same reason we buy a bunch of stuff from China and send factories to other countries to build stuff that gets shipped right back here, the ever powerful $. Environmentalists will tell you it's bad for us to pump and refine our own oils because it hurts the top-soil and the earth needs these resources left in it, but any good farmer will tell you not replant in one patch of soil too many times because the soil needs time to recup and as long as you move around the same soil will produce 100's of years worth of crop. I honestly believe that if all these people, companies and organizations really cared about America instead of chasing the dollar at all costs, we would be in much better shape as a country.
The info that is made public, the info you have even if you have a gov "Top-secret" clearance is totally diff from a military "Top-secret". I don't have any hard facts and like I said my father-in-law hasn't broken any rules regarding is knowledge, I have just been around him long enough to put 2 & 2 together on some things. Yes there are plenty of things the military is also not privy to. I guess I didn't put my points out there well enough. It is a combination of several organizations and companies that hold back technology and yes it is done on purpose. Why don't we say screw importing oil, use all the money we are wasting making other people and countries rich and start refining ourown, thenget everybody in America in a Hybrid? Because auto makers would be forced to lose money, the oil industry would lose money, crooked political entities would lose money, a bunch of off-shore accounts would stop getting $ put into them, etc. It is not a great Gov conspiracy, it's a bunch of greedy people that don't want to let go of their profit. The same reason we buy a bunch of stuff from China and send factories to other countries to build stuff that gets shipped right back here, the ever powerful $. Environmentalists will tell you it's bad for us to pump and refine our own oils because it hurts the top-soil and the earth needs these resources left in it, but any good farmer will tell you not replant in one patch of soil too many times because the soil needs time to recup and as long as you move around the same soil will produce 100's of years worth of crop. I honestly believe that if all these people, companies and organizations really cared about America instead of chasing the dollar at all costs, we would be in much better shape as a country.
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JasonA I appreciate your "agree to disagree" stand point. Just don't feel like this thread is the right place to keep this going. However I will say this last thing and then we can start a new thread or PM our thoughts to each other.
The info that is made public, the info you have even if you have a gov "Top-secret" clearance is totally diff from a military "Top-secret". I don't have any hard facts and like I said my father-in-law hasn't broken any rules regarding is knowledge, I have just been around him long enough to put 2 & 2 together on some things. Yes there are plenty of things the military is also not privy to. I guess I didn't put my points out there well enough. It is a combination of several organizations and companies that hold back technology and yes it is done on purpose. Why don't we say screw importing oil, use all the money we are wasting making other people and countries rich and start refining ourown, thenget everybody in America in a Hybrid? Because auto makers would be forced to lose money, the oil industry would lose money, crooked political entities would lose money, a bunch of off-shore accounts would stop getting $ put into them, etc. It is not a great Gov conspiracy, it's a bunch of greedy people that don't want to let go of their profit. The same reason we buy a bunch of stuff from China and send factories to other countries to build stuff that gets shipped right back here, the ever powerful $. Environmentalists will tell you it's bad for us to pump and refine our own oils because it hurts the top-soil and the earth needs these resources left in it, but any good farmer will tell you not replant in one patch of soil too many times because the soil needs time to recup and as long as you move around the same soil will produce 100's of years worth of crop. I honestly believe that if all these people, companies and organizations really cared about America instead of chasing the dollar at all costs, we would be in much better shape as a country.
JasonA I appreciate your "agree to disagree" stand point. Just don't feel like this thread is the right place to keep this going. However I will say this last thing and then we can start a new thread or PM our thoughts to each other.
The info that is made public, the info you have even if you have a gov "Top-secret" clearance is totally diff from a military "Top-secret". I don't have any hard facts and like I said my father-in-law hasn't broken any rules regarding is knowledge, I have just been around him long enough to put 2 & 2 together on some things. Yes there are plenty of things the military is also not privy to. I guess I didn't put my points out there well enough. It is a combination of several organizations and companies that hold back technology and yes it is done on purpose. Why don't we say screw importing oil, use all the money we are wasting making other people and countries rich and start refining ourown, thenget everybody in America in a Hybrid? Because auto makers would be forced to lose money, the oil industry would lose money, crooked political entities would lose money, a bunch of off-shore accounts would stop getting $ put into them, etc. It is not a great Gov conspiracy, it's a bunch of greedy people that don't want to let go of their profit. The same reason we buy a bunch of stuff from China and send factories to other countries to build stuff that gets shipped right back here, the ever powerful $. Environmentalists will tell you it's bad for us to pump and refine our own oils because it hurts the top-soil and the earth needs these resources left in it, but any good farmer will tell you not replant in one patch of soil too many times because the soil needs time to recup and as long as you move around the same soil will produce 100's of years worth of crop. I honestly believe that if all these people, companies and organizations really cared about America instead of chasing the dollar at all costs, we would be in much better shape as a country.
i said basicly the same thing in my post above yours
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if man can go to outer space and to mars i really think man can make an alternative fuel.
if man can go to outer space and to mars i really think man can make an alternative fuel.
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i agree with jason. this just sounds like a bad idea. i dont see how you would keep your engine lubricated since oil and water dont mix. but if you want to try it by all means go ahead...just dont cry about it when your engine quits running.
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I too wonder about lubrication. I don't think it runs strictly on water.From what I read, the system electrically breaks the bond of H2O and you actually burns Hydrogen and Oxygen as elements and that mixed with gas helps stretch the fuel you burn.
That's how I interpret it.
Ethanol dosn't have much lubrication capability either. When we ran our race car on methanol we added a fuel lube to help lubricate fuel system parts etc. It sure ran cooler.
That's how I interpret it.
Ethanol dosn't have much lubrication capability either. When we ran our race car on methanol we added a fuel lube to help lubricate fuel system parts etc. It sure ran cooler.
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i agree with jason. this just sounds like a bad idea. i dont see how you would keep your engine lubricated since oil and water dont mix. but if you want to try it by all means go ahead...just dont cry about it when your engine quits running.
i agree with jason. this just sounds like a bad idea. i dont see how you would keep your engine lubricated since oil and water dont mix. but if you want to try it by all means go ahead...just dont cry about it when your engine quits running.
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A guy at work out of the blue was talking about his home made kit they built for his chey truck.
He went from 16 mpg to around 37. There are lots of little things to do to trick the comp, map sensor and air mass meter. Could be time consuming, but with help from him, I may give it a try. He has done about 3 cars last week.
He went from 16 mpg to around 37. There are lots of little things to do to trick the comp, map sensor and air mass meter. Could be time consuming, but with help from him, I may give it a try. He has done about 3 cars last week.