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Old 06-21-2009 | 12:19 AM
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Ethanol actually burns a bit cleaner that regular gasoline. It burns cooler as well. Which shortens life of your cats.
 
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Old 06-21-2009 | 12:20 AM
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I jsut like my job haha, plus I really have no sympathy for the tortilla fund. I would rather use the corn and wheat to make me go fast haha
Ethanol is an alcohol, which works as a gasline antifreeze beause it readily mixes with water and removes it. also "A 10% blend of ethanol and gasoline will not harm any engine or fuel system component. However, the ethanol has a cleaning effect that will remove rust and other junk from the fuel system. This necessitates frequent fuel filter changes until the fuel system is cleaned out"
Source one:
http://autorepair.about.com/od/generalinfo/a/050205.htm
Source 2:
http://autorepair.about.com/library/faqs/bl412i.htm
"Ethanol is a very safe fuel, if you spill it it will not contaminate the ground water. If you drink it, you'll get drunk. Although if you drink large quantities you will suffer liver damage. In fact, if you drink just about any alcoholic beverage, you're drinking ethanol in one form or another. I was hard pressed to find any down sides to the use of ethanol as a fuel. There are reports that the emissions of an ethanol burning engine can adversely effect plant life, but studies are still being conducted to prove or disprove this."
http://autorepair.about.com/cs/gener...a102100a_2.htm
More Ethanol information:
http://oee.nrcan.gc.ca/transportatio...ol.cfm?attr=16

Anyways, sorry to threadjack. Check out Keystonerestyling.
 

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Old 06-21-2009 | 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by wingerak92
I jsut like my job haha, plus I really have no sympathy for the tortilla fund. I would rather use the corn and wheat to make me go fast haha
Ethanol is an alcohol, which works as a gasline antifreeze beause it readily mixes with water and removes it. also "A 10% blend of ethanol and gasoline will not harm any engine or fuel system component. However, the ethanol has a cleaning effect that will remove rust and other junk from the fuel system. This necessitates frequent fuel filter changes until the fuel system is cleaned out"
Source one:
http://autorepair.about.com/od/generalinfo/a/050205.htm
Source 2:
http://autorepair.about.com/library/faqs/bl412i.htm
"Ethanol is a very safe fuel, if you spill it it will not contaminate the ground water. If you drink it, you'll get drunk. Although if you drink large quantities you will suffer liver damage. In fact, if you drink just about any alcoholic beverage, you're drinking ethanol in one form or another. I was hard pressed to find any down sides to the use of ethanol as a fuel. There are reports that the emissions of an ethanol burning engine can adversely effect plant life, but studies are still being conducted to prove or disprove this."
http://autorepair.about.com/cs/gener...a102100a_2.htm
More Ethanol information:
http://oee.nrcan.gc.ca/transportatio...ol.cfm?attr=16

Anyways, sorry to threadjack. Check out Keystonerestyling.
Thats fine and dandy, but what happens when you turn your car/truck off and let it sit over night...

Most people drive to work and back, and try to get jobs close to home, a short trip to anywhere doesn't get the motor hot enough to burn all that crap out, so when the engine sits over night those deposits build up, and since ethanol socks up all the water and is such a good solvent, sitting in plastic or any type of rubber/fiberglass hoses or gas tanks it eats away at it.. where does all that extra crap go? In your engine, or in the cat...

Not only does it suck in car not MEANT for e85 or 10-15-20 whatever... causes more maintenance, burns gaskets up faster, hoses, ect...

a lot of racers use e85, but they have special motors to run it and hoses ect... and the motor heats up enough to burn that crap out...

Joe Shmos little 4cyl Honda he drives 10 miles to work and back, is pretty much destroying his motor... all because "the media" says its ok and good.. yet they have no idea what it actually does... yeah its cleaner... but nothing is perfect.... it may be cleaner, but it destroys **** faster.

2 stoke engines, lawnmowers, weed eaters, ect.. cant use it.... or the motor will just crap out, do to the already meant to run lean motors and then you put eth in it.. ha.

Its good to an extent.... and under certain conditions, but for everyday drivers with motors not meant for it.. its doing more damage then it is good... well its giving the shops/mech. more business so that's kinda good..

either way... i don't like it.

Thats just my opinion...
 
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Old 06-21-2009 | 07:00 AM
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when it sits, the stuff will settle into low points in the system. Generally before the fuel filter. And EVERY vehicle made after 1980 has been designed so running E10 in it will not damage it and it will keep the same lifespan as people who do not run E10. Think about the energy crisis of that era. It caused just as much panic as we have today about alternative fuels, don't get me wrong, I don't believe the global warming fad. I like the running cleaner and burning cooler aspect of it. And since any autmobile designed after 1980 was designed to run with either E10 or regular gasoline, I have no problem running E10 in it. E10 does have a lower energy content than regular gas, and if the vehicle has been sitting for a while, it could have problems. The lower energy content is directly proportional to a decrease in MPG. If you watch your fuel system and use a smaller micron filter and keep an eye on teh rubber in older vehicles (older than 1980), you will have no problems.

Anyways User, we could spend all day debating this, but I think it is jsut a preference. Just like those people who are believing that putting an inert gas (nitrogen) into their gas tank when they fill up at Shell will improve their vehicle in performance and cleanliness. But, it is my preference to run E10 in my truck since it has been designed for it. I also like supporting the Saskatchewan and Albertan farmers.
 

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