Just got back. They know what they're doing. They only do 1 trans at a time, and everything is done in the automotive equivelent of a clean room- everythign is tore down and washed with solvent in the bay, then brought into a little room that is stainless everything, and put down in order. Except, they do not do 4L60E's on their own, they take them to an expert in DeSoto.

He showed me that on the FRONT CLUTCH they had a clutch disc first in order on the open side of the drum, instead of a metal clutch plate like there's supposed to be. The Convertor had 2 flat spots on it where it had obviously been struck with force by a hammer, and the 2 stamped numbers were illeggible. The drum had a piece of material missing on the FRONT CLUTCH end, before the teeth start, where a clutch disc or metal plate had come off the teeth and been oscilating around that ring and eventualy broke it off. the Teflon and Plastic Seal Rings on the input shaft had wallowed out of their gaps, making them over twice as wide as what they should be (he showed me the new vs the old). The governor pressure solenoid and sensor (I believe, can't ID based on photos in the FSM) were filled with metal shavings. The planetaries themselves were in fair condition, he decided he's going to re-use them.

Re-use list:

Casing
gears
tail and intermediate shafts
valve body

damage list:
Front clutches and plates
drum
2nd gear band
front pump
convertor
input shaft

Not damaged, but replacing anyways:
overdrive clutches and plates

Plus they're going to power flush the cooler and it's lines.

 

yup, the torque converter failed, thats what that whine is. happens when theres a load on it. when i had my 422re rebuilt, it was $2535... and guess what.. done right, thing still holds up like a champ. just have it regularly serviced every 20-25K miles (flush, filter, fluid) and it will make it worth your while. make sure he uses mopar atf-4.

 

I can't believe you are going to pay $2450 for a rebuilt tranny...

 

It's NOT a shelf unit. I'm paying labor plus just about every hard part in the trans. Fox says his was higher than that.. ^^

 

Here's what a guy on another forum said

 

the only thing salvaged outta my trans was the case itself.. everything else was replaced with heavy duty parts.. even the torque converter was specially built to a heavy duty spec.

o and magnethead, make sure your tranny rebuilder removes the one way check valve inline with the cooler lines, if i remember correctly. should be called an anti drainback valve. mine was stuck partially closed/open so overdrive in my unit lost lubrication because of a wiped out thrust washer in the torque converter, grenaded, dumped crap into the rest of the transmission and annihilated it. still had the first 3 gear.

 

IDK what he did. Anywho i have it back... and feels like they sucked the power out of it... they put the TV cable where it belongs, and I guess because the engine is under full load instead of neutralized, it doesn't have the ease of acceleration it did before...

 

 

I got a completely rebuilt tranny just as you did for half the price. My tranny was no less superior to yours because yours was rebuilt right there and mine was rebuilt in a warehouse somewhere else then shipped to the shop. It DOES NOT make the tranny in your truck and different then the tranny in mine. I paid $12xx out the door.

I don't know if you or your father or what are paying for it. But I would have never paid $2600 for something I could have that was equal for $1200...

Fox's is 4x4 so in turn there is more labor involved plus they used "heavy duty" parts, so I can kind of understand the higher price. But basically he got a 4x4 tranny rebuilt with better parts for the same price you got your 2wd rebuilt with average parts.


Sorry man you're not going to convince me you didn't get screwed. But it's your money not mine.

 

re-read the receipt. I find $1200 hard to believe if they did your hard parts.

The overhaul kit (clutches and band) was $300, and $794 to pull the trans out of the truck. That's $1094. Not bad for a basic rebuild.

Add the $225 convertor, $105 solenoid, $100 sensor, $625 in hard parts, and $300 to service the unitized assembly, there's the other $1355 to the price.